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    Navan Sunday

    This is what Jumps weekends are all about

    Cracking card at Navan

    Apple's Jade
    A Plus Tard
    Andy Dufrense
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    Fakir in the bumper
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I went 2 years ago. Great homemade cakes and Footpad's debut over fences.
    The older I get the better I was.

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    Been a few times, took a photo of this feller being led into the parade ring prior to his win in the 2011 Fortria Chase.

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    I used to follow Moscow here and it was also my first day at the track yonks ago
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Last edited by wilsonl; 10th November 2019 at 1:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    This is what Jumps weekends are all about

    Cracking card at Navan

    Apple's Jade
    A Plus Tard
    Andy Dufrense
    Melon
    Fakir in the bumper
    While he didn't make your pre-meeting list of exciting horses to watch, I thought Abracadbras was most impressive on Sunday.
    Really loved the way he travelled through the race. Hard to know what he beat in behind, but visually I was very taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Handful View Post
    While he didn't make your pre-meeting list of exciting horses to watch, I thought Abracadbras was most impressive on Sunday.
    Really loved the way he travelled through the race. Hard to know what he beat in behind, but visually I was very taken.

    He actually blew me away Sunday
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I’m happy to strike A Plus Tard off. Could possibly win a weak renewal of the Ryanair, will come on for the run but I can’t have him. I understand for the winner, it’s his Gold Cup so to speak, I just would want to see a bit more.

    Could be speaking to early mind and I’m happy to give him another chance. Will need something impressive to change my mind though.

    On Apples Jade, I’m gutted, probably my favourite mare in training. I know Kevin Blake is standing by her, and she has ran a mid 140s apparently which is only what she ever does really run first time out (brought up figures to back his point) it’s just the manner of her last few defeats that leave me questioning. Think they’ll have one last go, and if it’s a similar performance next time out she’ll be retired. If that is the case, what a mare she has proven to be. Right up there, if not better, than the likes of Annie Power for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    He actually blew me away Sunday
    I posted on here shortly after the race - obviously site problems at the time - that, while it's early doors, I'd a strong suspicion we'd just seen the Supreme winner.
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    On A Plus Tard

    I'm actually still as keen as mustard

    I will elaborate

    * i'm already on board the bandwagon
    * he is now a much bigger price
    * He was taking on a very good horse who would trouble any 2m chaser on that ground and when travelling like that
    * APT needs another 4f or so
    * Spring form is a plus
    * Much less chance of him running in a QM and no chance of a GC
    * He is a young horse and open to much improvement still
    * Henry trains him
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Winning course form too

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    A Plus Tard's Cheltenham figure is so far ahead of anything else he's done that it has to be treated with caution. Sunday's performance fitted in with normal improvement from his other runs last term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    Winning course form too
    Not sure if it matters massively, but Close brothers is on the Old Course and the Ryanair is on the new.
    Only time will tell if the new course suits him any better or worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    On A Plus Tard

    I'm actually still as keen as mustard

    I will elaborate

    * i'm already on board the bandwagon
    * he is now a much bigger price
    * He was taking on a very good horse who would trouble any 2m chaser on that ground and when travelling like that
    * APT needs another 4f or so
    * Spring form is a plus
    * Much less chance of him running in a QM and no chance of a GC
    * He is a young horse and open to much improvement still
    * Henry trains him
    Have to say I'm this way inclined myself. Was staring at 25/1 for the Ryanair for quite a while yesterday, but just didn't pull the trigger, yet!
    Like you PJ, I thought Sunday's run was a perfectly fine reappearance and the horse clearly needs further than 2M.
    Also, remember he lost on his seasonal reappearance last year too and only won 1 of 3 races before hacking up at the Festival.
    My view is that the Ryanair is 99% certain to be his target and everything is worked backwards from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    A Plus Tard's Cheltenham figure is so far ahead of anything else he's done that it has to be treated with caution. Sunday's performance fitted in with normal improvement from his other runs last term.
    Possibly trained with a handicap mark in mind last year and ran over the wrong trip next time out

    Plenty of good horses would have been downed over the minimum trip on Sunday to Bally but he plugged on

    I think there is a fair chance he won't win a race before Cheltenham next March either
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonl View Post
    I posted on here shortly after the race - obviously site problems at the time - that, while it's early doors, I'd a strong suspicion we'd just seen the Supreme winner.
    Elliot mob handed with novice hurdlers Abacadabras, Envoi Allen and Andy Dufresne. All 3 look potentially top class at this point.
    As it stands you'd think Andy & Envoi are more Neptune bound. Good thing is 3 different owners, so hopefully there's no excessive ducking and diving!
    The Royal Bond going to be very interesting on 1st December. The exciting Dlauro also entered up for Joseph.

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards...-12-01/744796/

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    All good Cheltenham hopes should run at Navan

    Lovely course run by friendly people and always a knowledgable crowd there

    GE is absolutely mob handed with hurdlers

    It's possible that 3 future Gold Cup winners raced at Navan last Sunday
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    It's an exciting season to look forward to. The novice hurdle division is absolutely stacked, and we haven't started talking about Willie's battalions yet either!

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