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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Nine months to go.
    4/5 more than nine months to go
    11/10 nine months to go
    10/1 remain
    33/1 civil war

    Help yourself but please don't request the full-cover double on remain and civil war: related contingency or what

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    Wish Clivex was still here, so he could held to account for his hopelessly optimistic (some may say utterly fu*cking useless) predictions, as to how it would play-out.

    Maybe this dig in-absentia will flush him out of the shadows?
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Bump. Nine months to go.
    Isn't that a bit soon for a bump?

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    Arf arf!
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

    SlimChance, March 2018

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    Any chance Scotland will recast on it's independance?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Any chance Scotland will recast on it's independance?
    100% guaranteed if we leave the EU.......and I would likely campaign vigourously for it myself, in the hope that we would be re-admitted to the EU, in the reasonably short-term.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Best of luck with your efforts bud
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Grassy and Sturgeon, all at one, together. Who'd have thought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clivex View Post
    Cant you weigh this up

    Airbus is committed for the next 15 years . It will clearly be 20 before they can do anything, if they do anything at all which they have made very clear, they have no idea about.

    it's a total non story
    Nostradamus doesn’t have a look-in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Wish Clivex was still here,
    Maybe this dig in-absentia will flush him out of the shadows?
    He's just made a somewhat snide reference to TH on TRF, on 'what does ITV mean' thread, so feel sure your Airbus post has needled him

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    Nah............Clive doesn't do snide!
    Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drone View Post
    He's just made a somewhat snide reference to TH on TRF, on 'what does ITV mean' thread, so feel sure your Airbus post has needled him
    Shame he hasn’t popped back up, Drone. There’s no better man for staunchly defending an indefensible position, in the face of overwhelming evidence which repudiates his argument.

    I genuinely miss such pointless exchanges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Any chance Scotland will recast on it's independance?
    I am firmly anti-independence but even I might vote for it if we were guaranteed membership of the EU for Scotland.

    But it would have to be a cast-iron guarantee.
    Last edited by Desert Orchid; 23rd June 2018 at 9:04 PM.
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    Scotland, I have read, would have to renegotiate their membership as a separate entity, so who knows what that might cost in terms of monetary and other terms.

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    I don’t think there would be any cast-iron guarantees about Scotland’s re-entry to the EU, but I do think that an application would be viewed very favourably, given Scotland would have been extracted from the EU, entirely against its will. It is a wholly different dynamic to a new country requesting to join the Union, and I’d like to think it would be viewed in that light, in other European capitals.

    If Brexit comes to pass, the United Kingdom is finished anyway. England are effectively stripping every Scot of their European citizenship (and all the benefits that are derived from it) - something which is an order of magnitude greater in terms of the outrage it has generated up here, then using Scotland as a testing ground for the Poll Tax, for the example.

    We, like many in England, can see the writing on the post-Brexit wall, and there is absolutely zero appetite to go down, tethered to the Little Englander ship. As our World Cup record has shown over the years, we are perfectly capable of spectacular failure all by ourselves, thanks very much.
    Last edited by Grasshopper; 24th June 2018 at 4:47 AM.
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    The TH poll was Stay 27 Leave 20. Presumably these votes were cast before the referendum

    Would it be possible to have a new poll to see how that 47 - and others - would vote now?

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    It would. Feel free to start one!

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    Thanks Marble, thought moderators had to give the go-ahead first

    Poll is up now

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    Six years to the day since the vote.

    Almost 2 years since we 'left' left.

    Some of the arguments on this thread have proven accurate - others less so (some of mine included).

    Several Member casualties along the way.

    Grass's considered analysis: Brexit is an even bigger shi*tshow than I feared, and the Tories are even more right-wing than I ever thought possible.

    Can an Irish person please adopt me.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Tory right continues to believe we can show those Johnny foreigners a thing or two despite mounting evidence to the contrary. Interesting, the Tories have stolen Labour’s clothes with all the Covid and energy costs handouts and borrowed (printed) shed loads of money much to the chagrin of the same Tory right.

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