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Grasshopper (18th June 2018)
Wish Clivex was still here, so he could held to account for his hopelessly optimistic (some may say utterly fu*cking useless) predictions, as to how it would play-out.
Maybe this dig in-absentia will flush him out of the shadows?
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
Arf arf!
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
Any chance Scotland will recast on it's independance?
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Best of luck with your efforts bud
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Grasshopper (22nd June 2018)
Grassy and Sturgeon, all at one, together. Who'd have thought it.
Nah............Clive doesn't do snide!
Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
Scotland, I have read, would have to renegotiate their membership as a separate entity, so who knows what that might cost in terms of monetary and other terms.
I don’t think there would be any cast-iron guarantees about Scotland’s re-entry to the EU, but I do think that an application would be viewed very favourably, given Scotland would have been extracted from the EU, entirely against its will. It is a wholly different dynamic to a new country requesting to join the Union, and I’d like to think it would be viewed in that light, in other European capitals.
If Brexit comes to pass, the United Kingdom is finished anyway. England are effectively stripping every Scot of their European citizenship (and all the benefits that are derived from it) - something which is an order of magnitude greater in terms of the outrage it has generated up here, then using Scotland as a testing ground for the Poll Tax, for the example.
We, like many in England, can see the writing on the post-Brexit wall, and there is absolutely zero appetite to go down, tethered to the Little Englander ship. As our World Cup record has shown over the years, we are perfectly capable of spectacular failure all by ourselves, thanks very much.
Last edited by Grasshopper; 24th June 2018 at 4:47 AM.
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
The TH poll was Stay 27 Leave 20. Presumably these votes were cast before the referendum
Would it be possible to have a new poll to see how that 47 - and others - would vote now?
It would. Feel free to start one!
Drone (24th June 2018)
Thanks Marble, thought moderators had to give the go-ahead first
Poll is up now
Six years to the day since the vote.
Almost 2 years since we 'left' left.
Some of the arguments on this thread have proven accurate - others less so (some of mine included).
Several Member casualties along the way.
Grass's considered analysis: Brexit is an even bigger shi*tshow than I feared, and the Tories are even more right-wing than I ever thought possible.
Can an Irish person please adopt me.
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
Tory right continues to believe we can show those Johnny foreigners a thing or two despite mounting evidence to the contrary. Interesting, the Tories have stolen Labour’s clothes with all the Covid and energy costs handouts and borrowed (printed) shed loads of money much to the chagrin of the same Tory right.