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    Not sure if there is a more recent thread but hope we saw the winner today at Limerick in Burning Ambition.

    Pierce the trainer is a friend of mine from school days , is a cousin of puppy, bred new to this town and had play the Ace before it was sold on to our own Roddy

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    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Cheers Granger. I saw him win super easy yesterday and always nice to read a bit of the back story

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    Very good performance and know plenty who thought he was passed the post before the race had begun.

    Word of warning though Granger in that he didn't beat much yesterday and though he's qualified for Cheltenham there are a heck of a lot of horses qualified for the big race and generally it takes a rating in the low 130's to get a run. The handicapper's have a bit of scope to allow a couple of wildcard's and sure he'd be line for one of those but would be hoping that something decent turns up at Gowran Park or wherever he goes next as can't see him being rated more than 122 for yesterday's success.

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    Punchestown maybe Martin. Was hoping he would be a bit better price yesterday. He arrived home safe at least and their dream is still alive.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Cheers Granger - think the price thing was wishful thinking sadly.

    Even if the compilers don't have a clue (they didn't have much yesterday judged on the early prices) he was never going to be much bigger than the 4/5 opening show sadly.

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    Killultagh Vic appears to be getting a few entries. An obvious one for the Foxhunters if he comes back in any form. But would he have time to qualify? and i assume he'd have to move trainer again?

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    He'd struggle to qualify I think - this time around he#d need two Hunter Chase places or two Open P2P wins or an Open P2P win and a HC place.

    He was at David Christie's and being targeted at the race from what I remember but they've moved him back to WPM's so possibly off the agenda now.

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    McBratney's wasn't it? They decided that he retained enough ability to aim higher than hunter chases. He had fancy Leopardstown entries this week and is also in at Punchestown on Sunday in a hurdle.
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    My bad - that's the place Archie.
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    What are your own thoughts on the winner come March Martin?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Staker wallace ??

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    We're starting to approach the time where, if I had a long term fancy for this race, I'd be getting a little itchy if they hadn't yet had any qualifying wins or places.
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    Sorry just seen these posts - looks very open at present.

    Burning Ambition lacks the experience of a lot of these and the reason for those who put him up seems to be that he has a similar profile to Cappa Bleu, but then he also has a similar profile to the winner of the Limerick race two or three years ago It Came To Pass and many others.

    I'd be keen to see a few more of the hunter chases in the coming weeks before putting my money down - nothing stands out currently.

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    We'll find out more Punchestown Sunday as it's Gilgamboa (not qualified for Cheltenham) v Burning Ambition...

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    The hunter chase at Haydock on Saturday has a bonus for any horse that wins and goes on to win at Cheltenham and/or Aintree. Nicholls has Virak entered so presumably high on his list.

    I've taken 3/1 Nicholls to have the winner at Cheltenham.
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    Skybet now going Nicholls 5/1 to have the winner. Seems a very fair price when Wonderful Charm is 6/1 and you get Pacha Du Polder and Virak thrown in.
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    Agree, and thanks for the heads up Archie. I will avail myself right now.

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    Well, it's taken about 50 weeks for them to admit it but they've finally done so....

    Nicholls on Wonderful Charm's run last year (at the RP site today):

    "All the other races are mega-competitive and we have chances but if the ground is good Wonderful Charm can go one better this year. He's my best chance. He's a bit quirky and ground-dependent but is a good horse when he's right."We've trained him just for that race. He has a good pilot on him as well. Katie [Walsh] rode him last year and she just got a bit unlucky in running, probably following the wrong horse during the race, the favourite, and then got a bit behind.


    Takes me back...

    Last year on the morning of the race I wrote:

    Biggest bet of the week (and for some time):

    Wonderful Charm 11/2
    After it:

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    Fvck fvck fvck fvck fvck!!!!!

    Beaten by a pathetic over-confident ride. "Oh, I only have to beat On The Fringe..."
    And in my race review, more temperately:

    As I said before, I was seething throughout the Hunter Chase. It looked to me like Katy Walsh had decided she only had to stalk On The Fringe to win. JJ Codd had been riding brilliantly (as ever, but he gets the best horses) so it was an understandable tactic. However, OTF came off the bit quite quickly and Wonderful Charm was left with a lot of ground to make up. To fail by a narrow margin to catch one that was itself finishing strongly shows just what a certainty Wonderful Charm should have been.


    Whether he will be up to winning a year on I won't really know until I've studied the race a wee bit more.

    Like the NH Chase, I think the Foxhunters' is attracting classier types these days.

    PS - I've just noticed archie's post above as I haven't been following the thread (still hurting...). I'll have a wee look but I take it that price is long gone?
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    Thanks for reminding me of that DO. Had won plenty on the day thanks to Defi, but needed Wonderful Charm for another £3k or so. Such is life.

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    I've spent the year trying (but failing) to forget it too and to potentially make matters worse, I've been going back in ever since for this year's edition.

    Wouldn't want to see the ground deteriorate too much.
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