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    I am really intrigued to know how Fookal got through? Commentators the other day struggling how to pronounce it without making it sound as the obvious.
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    Anyone now the record price for a NH mare in foal please? Tried googling....not happening. Thank you.
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    In training with Mr Henderson at the moment is the Royal bred and owned Hamilton's Fantasy. An inspired piece of naming by the Queen as she's by Mount Nelson out of Romantic dream. She retains a healthy sense of humour.
    Unfortunately she hasn't run nor is she mentioned in Henderson's stable tours: well bred though.

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    An in-foal Apples Jade arriving at Cheltenham to be sold in tomorrows Goff's sale:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1336335200150687750

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    Apples Jade now the most expensive NH mare selling for €530k to the Moran’s who are investing massively in the game. A bit more info on them here: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...idea-1.4082815

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    Christ that's some money
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Real mixed bag for the online sale at Doncaster today. Have to think that quite a few of those not sold, would/might have if the sale had been as normal where personal interaction would have led to people being less reticent to bid.
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    570k of a horse makes it's debut at Newbury today

    Jonbon - full brother to Douvan
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Reported on Phil Kirby's FB page that Lady Buttons unable to conceive as underdeveloped ovaries. Shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-G View Post
    Reported on Phil Kirby's FB page that Lady Buttons unable to conceive as underdeveloped ovaries. Shame.
    Oh gosh, that’s a bugger!!


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    Yes real shame for them and her. Suggested they maybe try an AI of another breed to give the chance to be a mum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-G View Post
    Yes real shame for them and her. Suggested they maybe try an AI of another breed to give the chance to be a mum.
    I’m not sure she’d be able to even do that though - it’s the producing eggs and being able to take anything to term that would most likely be an issue. I can’t remember Id embryo transfer is an option for racehorses - bearing in mind how crazy the rule is about AI, I can’t imagine they would like ET either but I should think that would be her best chance of breeding anything at all. And that’s assuming she’s capable of ovulating and has viable follicles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by trudij View Post
    I’m not sure she’d be able to even do that though - it’s the producing eggs and being able to take anything to term that would most likely be an issue. I can’t remember Id embryo transfer is an option for racehorses - bearing in mind how crazy the rule is about AI, I can’t imagine they would like ET either but I should think that would be her best chance of breeding anything at all. And that’s assuming she’s capable of ovulating and has viable follicles.


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    Sorry I meant implanted embryo not AI. Plenty of demand for mares to have foals this way. A lot of polo ponies born that way in this country. Would give her a chance to be a mum to someone.
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    No high tech stuff allowed in thoroughbred world as of yet.( not officially anyway)
    A mare her age with under developed ovaries makes one wonder; either a genetic problem XO chromosome or possible steroid treatment as a youngster or some such.
    I remember in college we were told of such a mare , very successful racemare in the 80s who had the genetic abnormality; no names of course alas !
    Just wonder if such benefit unfairly from fillies' allowance when racing .
    They would have noticed her not coming in season when in training perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    No high tech stuff allowed in thoroughbred world as of yet.( not officially anyway)
    A mare her age with under developed ovaries makes one wonder; either a genetic problem XO chromosome or possible steroid treatment as a youngster or some such.
    I remember in college we were told of such a mare , very successful racemare in the 80s who had the genetic abnormality; no names of course alas !
    Just wonder if such benefit unfairly from fillies' allowance when racing .
    They would have noticed her not coming in season when in training perhaps?
    I didn’t think it was yet, AI is still banned ( ridiculously IMO) so I didn’t think they’d allow something as exciting as ET !!
    You’d think they’d notice over time wouldn’t you, though I suppose there are plenty of mares who don’t show, so possibly not. I half wonder if they will put her back into training - she’s had plenty of time for the injury to recover by now....
    whatever they do she certainly won’t lack for care, her owners clearly adore her


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    Yes I cannot understand why they can’t allow AI in this modern era of DNA testing which was supposedly the reason before. For me it would be kinder on the mares not having to travel to be covered (often not long after they have foaled) with a foal in tow which can be stressful and also eliminate things like Equine Herpes. But then again it would mean the studs wouldn’t get their fairly lucrative “keep fees”
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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnyj View Post
    Yes I cannot understand why they can’t allow AI in this modern era of DNA testing which was supposedly the reason before. For me it would be kinder on the mares not having to travel to be covered (often not long after they have foaled) with a foal in tow which can be stressful and also eliminate things like Equine Herpes. But then again it would mean the studs wouldn’t get their fairly lucrative “keep fees”
    Think of the possibilities for stallions though as well - you could go to any stallion anywhere and get the semen within a few days... it just opens up such possibilities


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    Breeding and Bloodstock Sales

    While I’m in here, anyone want to buy an Elite NH broodmare? In foal to Telescope, due at the end of April. Currently living in Shropshire .

    ( and I’m being serious, so if anyone does - PM me!)


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    I'm not suggesting a TB embryo for her, I know that's not allowed. Plenty of surrogate mares are needed for other breeds, if they wanted to have the experience being a mum at least once , they could do that.
    With DNA I don't know what they don't allow A1 for TBs either. Yes there could be a danger of the market being flooded with a particular blood line, but there's a bit of that now with SW/Galileo offspring, but there could probably be limits put in for stallions no longer naturally covering for whatever reason, and that could work. Maybe.
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