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    World Cup Group A

    This group looks very interesting. I am looking forward to seeing the opener on Thursday night, although it is a pity that Mandzukic is suspended. I would fancy Croatia to get a draw if he had been fit.

    It is hard to see past Brazil to win the group, but I wonder who will chase them home.

    Mexico look particularly weak, so for me it is between Croatia and Cameroon. Mandzukic, Modric, Rakitic and Kovacic would get into most teams. But a lot of the fancy commentators are warning that Cameroon are one of the better teams from Africa, and I do like Mbia and

    Here is what I am thinking:

    Brazil vs. Croatia under 2.5 goals 11/10 2pts.
    Mexico to finish bottom 3/1 2pts.
    Brazil - Croatia forecast 7/4 1pt.
    Welsh and Proud.

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    I like all of them.

    I think Brazil will crumble under pressure, and am hoping for something like:

    Low-scoring win, or draw, with Croatia. Nervous performance, scrape a result, people out it down to first game of tournament and nerves.
    Easier, though unconvincing, victories against Cameroon and Mexico.
    Have a decent bet on Chile, or a smaller one on Netherlands, to beat them in the second round at inflated odds as the mediocrity of the Brazil side hasn't been seen by wider public due to acceptable results.

    I am not sure why Mexico are 3s to finish last, good spot.

    For me, Croatia are clear second best in the group (albeit from a relatively ignorant position on the other 2 teams), so I would have had Mehico less than 2s to finish last.

    edited to say: would you think any value in a Croatia-Brazil forecast?
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    Yeah, to borrow an expression from my company, we're "on the same page" in general. However, I do think you're under-estimating Brazil . They're no world beaters, but their squad is arguably in the top 3 this summer.

    I am not sure if Croatia are that good really.
    Welsh and Proud.

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    Croatia's midfield is glorious on fhe ball, but id worry about their ability to defend if they go with the three creators. The defence isn't great and they've got a real issue at left back due to injuries.

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    Any thoughts on Croatia +2 at near on evens?

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    Neymar and Oscar look like a pair of fannies, afraid of getting tackled, big men for the small occasion.

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    Rather boring stuff
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Is Fred playing?

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    Fred and Hulk are both incredibly ****. These lot whould be 12s based on actual football ability.

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    Ha ha. Penalty my hole.

    Spain were more than twice the price of these jokers.

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    Generous referring from the Official.

    One less headache for Blatter and co
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Brazil were 4.0 to lay for 20k on Matchbook pregame. They are now 4.1. Amazing scenes!

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    as an antepost backer of them winning the lot at 4/1 i was deeply unimpressed with brazil tonight. did not deserve to win that game.

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    They did ok, first game and the pressure. Oscar played the best for me and this side could improve rapidly. Croatia are no mugs.
    Imagine if Italy were judged on their first game performances at tournaments!!

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    That penalty was a joke as was the Croatian Keeper, talk about chocolate wrists!
    Only 1 of Brazilians back 4 can actually defend!

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    On that display Brazil win nothing - very poor.
    Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......

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    Being the home side is such a big advantage laying Brazil could be a dangerous game. The first game in every World Cup I can remember is a let down 9 times out of 10.

    My 2 back to lays are Spain and Switzerland.

    Backing some of these teams to qualify is a bit of a scam. Betfair odds are much better and backing them to win then laying them back could be a better way to go........I'm hoping

    Spain for example are 1/7 with some books to qualify but they are 7.2 to win outright.

    A good performance in their group and they be quoted as low as 4.00 jt favs. A lay back at that price and you have 3 times the profit had you backed them at 1.17.........at 6.00 you'd be the same had you backed them at 1.17 to qualify

    I've taken a chance with Switzerland at 180 if they can beat or draw with Equador they have a great chance to qualify. They have a first class coach and if they do qualify depending who their next opponents turn out to be they could be a decent earner.

    Even if they drop to only 50 100 quid at 180 you can get out with 260 quid and at 40 you can green up at 355 profit.......with luck they could go as low as 33.

    It's a lot better than backing them at 4/6 to qualify which I imagine applies to a lot of teams

    If they do get through I'd be happy to stake out double my stake and let the rest run for a game or 2.
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    Spain for example are 1/7 with some books to qualify but they are 7.2 to win outright.

    A good performance in their group and they be quoted as low as 4.00 jt favs. A lay back at that price and you have 3 times the profit had you backed them at 1.17.........at 6.00 you'd be the same had you backed them at 1.17 to qualify
    But the qualify price is made up of the combined odds to win and to come second in the Group. Should they come second, they're playing Brazil. And they would not be a shorter price than they are now in that instance.
    Welsh and Proud.

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    I've taken 3/1 Cameroon with Boyles.

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    Not a bad bet. Mexico struggled through qualifying. I didn't get home early enough to have a bet so I'm leaving it until the Spain v Holland game later.
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