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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    And why should Lydia Hislop be regarded as the oracle on anything? Well remember the hatchet job she attempted on Keiran Fallon,which was ultimately laughed out of court.
    Jack Keene in the Sun came to pretty much the same conclusions as Lydia Hislop if that suits you better.

    How anyone could read the matey banter between the chairman of the panel and Dunne's lead counsel and not find it unseemly is beyond me.

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    If I called a woman a fukcin whore in the work place, in a fit of pique or not, I would deserve the sack. What’s the craic with racing? Welcome to the 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Len Madeiros View Post
    If I called a woman a fukcin whore in the work place, in a fit of pique or not, I would deserve the sack. What’s the craic with racing? Welcome to the 21st century.

    It depends on the context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chroniclandlord View Post
    Jack Keene in the Sun came to pretty much the same conclusions as Lydia Hislop if that suits you better.

    How anyone could read the matey banter between the chairman of the panel and Dunne's lead counsel and not find it unseemly is beyond me.
    Reading the article by Lydia Hislop my reaction was if that’s actually what went on then it’s nothing short of disgusting behaviour. If her comments have been backed up elsewhere then disgusting is not really strong enough


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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkWing View Post
    It's shocking for me to say but I think Sam Twiston Davies is a miles better jockey than when riding for Nicholls and one of the best in the UK at the moment. Never thought I'd think that.
    He's better than Harry Cobden....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    It depends on the context.
    Provide me with some context, please Luke.
    Last edited by Len Madeiros; 2nd April 2022 at 3:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Len Madeiros View Post
    Provide me with some context, please Luke.

    The context is the workplace is the racecourse where people have died and been paralysed in recent times.
    Jason Weaver has often recalled Mick Kinane and Johnny Murtagh going toe to toe in the jockeys room at The Curragh -two trained boxers -that's how much it matters. This isn't unusual in the international context.
    Maybe they should wait until the following day and make a formal complaint to the H.R. department but when your neck is on the line it's hard not to be emotional.

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    He said it to intimidate a woman. It’s very, very doubtful he would have said similar to a bloke, and I’m pretty sure he could have taken up his gripe with the PJA. That language is not excusable in the work place ever. If you say something like that to anyone within any other industry, you should expect the sack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Len Madeiros View Post
    He said it to intimidate a woman. It’s very, very doubtful he would have said similar to a bloke, and I’m pretty sure he could have taken up his gripe with the PJA. That language is not excusable in the work place ever. If you say something like that to anyone within any other industry, you should expect the sack.
    He couldn't have said similar to a bloke because the language was misogynistic. He would probably have thought twice about saying an equivalent - if there is such a thing (do you call a bloke a rent-boy?) to a bloke - because he might have got his teeth knocked out for it.

    The Orchid household discussed the Will Smith incident at some length the other day. Mrs O was on his side and said, "I know [from experience, I should add] that you would have put his lights out if he'd said that about me."

    It's very depressing that none of the males in the weighing room put his lights out there and then.
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    Yes, so much for the self-policing of the weighing room.

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    I think ye are missing the point. The bullying of Bryony WAS the policing of the weigh room. It's how things were done. It's why Dunne believes he did nothing wrong. It was Bryony who decided that it wasn't the right way of doing things.

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    The big thing bullies have had going for them for donkey’s years is that their victims have laid down to it all for fear of being ostracised as a cry baby or a tell-tale-tit. Indeed, victims were so ostracised. In the modern world there is, quite properly, understanding and sympathy for the victims instead - except in racing’s weighing room it seems. And, if Lydia Hislop is to be believed, the appeals panel. They are an absolute disgrace.
    Last edited by barjon; 2nd April 2022 at 8:40 PM.

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    Lydia Hislop and Lee Mottorshead were not impartial in their reporting -they were cheerleaders for Frost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjon View Post
    The big thing bullies have had going for them for donkey’s years is that their victims have laid down to it all for fear of being ostracised as a cry baby or a tell-tale-tit.
    Are you part Scottish, by any chance, Barjon?

    I recall as a child chanting:

    Tell-tale-tit
    Yer mammy cannae knit
    Yer daddy cannae go tae bed
    Wi'oot a dummy tit!

    (It seems the weighing room is living in the late 1950s.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    Lydia Hislop and Lee Mottorshead were not impartial in their reporting -they were cheerleaders for Frost.
    In that case, she has opened herself up to pretty hefty libel damages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Are you part Scottish, by any chance, Barjon?

    I recall as a child chanting:

    Tell-tale-tit
    Yer mammy cannae knit
    Yer daddy cannae go tae bed
    Wi'oot a dummy tit!

    (It seems the weighing room is living in the late 1950s.)
    No, a dreaded southerner. Mind you, when I was on Shetland for a time the Soothmoothers were those in Aberdeen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjon View Post
    In that case, she has opened herself up to pretty hefty libel damages.

    ....and also the people who repeat those libels.

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    Ryan Moore makes his first visit to Cork tomorrow after riding at Naas, Navan and Leopardstown .
    Any chance he is trying to be Irish Champion jockey this year ?
    Any price available for him anyone ?
    Last edited by edgt; 2nd April 2022 at 11:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    Ryan Moore makes his first visit to Cork tomorrow after riding at Naas, Navan and Leopardstown .
    Any chance he is trying to be Irish Champion jockey this year ?
    Any price available for him anyone ?
    And Jamie Spencer goes for 1 ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    Ryan Moore makes his first visit to Cork tomorrow after riding at Naas, Navan and Leopardstown .
    Any chance he is trying to be Irish Champion jockey this year ?
    Any price available for him anyone ?
    Come on now
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