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    There will be the weight of Great Expectations upon your youthful shoulders, young Stamp - as you know, a good pal wants to come pointing with us, although I think there might only be one she can now get to. I've bigged you up so much that she now wants you to think about finding her an 'orse! Your reputation goes before you, sir...
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    I really appreiciate thread like this but I must be honest and say I can't get my head round pointing at all. I've never been to a meeting and could't tell you where one course is I do know Larkhill is no where near Larkhall in Scotland and that's about it.

    However am a bit of a leecher and hang on to every word you guys write.

    Keep up the good work!

    Oh and Jeremy if that horse you tipped for the Foxhunters a few weeks back when you were the guest on TR doesn't win, I will send the boys round
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    If it's the horse I think he tipped Tanlic then it will win!!!
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    Tanlic, why don't you join Martin and me on one or two of our planned outings - I've only been to one point (South Godstone), but IS covers pretty much half of the country, such is his enthusiasm. If you are anywhere nearish to the South-East of England, we could all meet up, and IS could give us both a tutorial!
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    I've been to over 50 Pointing events, they're good yes, but you don't arf find some wierd people there for example; I was walking around with my Girlfriend when some lady come up to us offering a flower in tin foil - we knew! instantly said no thank you. We later find this women talking to someone on the course and lookin at us, it was about 30 minutes after being offered this flower than my girlfriend had 4 or 5 local horsey women come up to her and escort her of the course, one of them threw a punch at her and these were pretty butch women aswell.

    Last time I'm ever going pointing, their not in touch with reality them people out there.

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    Terrific thread. I used to follow the East Anglian pointing circuit quite closely (I had a few rides and we used to run a few too, plus my parents were secretaries at a meeting too) but latterly have slightly let it slip away. It's so hard to keep on top of the form unless you really put the hours in and you need to be going to the tracks every week too. My focus has switched entirely to the professionals which is much easier to follow.

    With that in mind would one of you (or more) be prepared to offer a brief (or long if you so desire) overview of the current look of the Foxhunters? It's always a race I like (I saw Bon Accord and Cappa Bleu in the flesh before their fine efforts) but no idea of the form this year. No bother if you'd rather not!

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    Sheila Crowe (Cappa Bleu's trainer) will win it again with My Flora IMO - will go into more detail later when I have more time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Stamp View Post
    Sheila Crowe (Cappa Bleu's trainer) will win it again with My Flora IMO - will go into more detail later when I have more time.
    That was straightforward then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Stamp View Post
    That meeting at Easter was a con rather than a P2P meeting IMO. Though I did note the race reader that day did ok out of it

    Heh-heh, no kidding. And he won't mind us saying as much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Oh and Jeremy if that horse you tipped for the Foxhunters a few weeks back when you were the guest on TR doesn't win, I will send the boys round
    Oh bugger - no pressure, then!

    Martin - it's not the same as yours, for all that I will be having an investment in My Flora as well in the hope she can jump up and down hills as well as Cappa Bleu. That's proven in Pointing, but only really at Maiden level a couple of years ago now - Cappa Bleu had answered that question at Open level before Cheltenham (at Horseheath), of course.

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    Day one of the Yorkshire Area season for me this coming Sunday, with the YAPPC holding their annual meeting at the Sheriff Hutton course owned and run by the Easterbys.

    Every chance, as is often the case, that the David Easterby- and Cherry Coward-trained animals will dominate under whichever Greenalls, Cowards and Bannisters have been jocked on, but Leac An Scail's Cottenham win on New Year's Eve should be taken to serve notice that Samantha Drake's got her string hard fit early on again.

    The genie's out of the bottle a bit now so I'm unsure there'll be any 3-1 for me to thieve about Optimistic Harry in the Ladies Open this time (eventually won cosily at 11-4), but no harm in looking for it. Her Keeverfield did me a ton of favours last season as well and is set to reappear in the Conditions event at Sheriff, though Heart Of All England hero Bitter Blue (a half-brother to Mossley) isn't likely to make things easy if taking in this race instead of the Mens Open.

    Quite a number of other familiar names feature elsewhere in the card, including Borero, Harmony Brig, Just Smudge, My Old Piano (winner of 15 of his 17 completed Points), Wild Is The Wind (4-4 in Points last year for the now-retired Gemma Hutchinson), Moustique De L'Isle, Pristine Condition, Sonevafushi and Amicelli.

    They also race on Sunday at Ampton (Suffolk) and Black Forest Lodge (Exeter), with decent-sized initial entries taken at both. I need to have a deeper look at the contents of those yet, though.

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    Bitter Blue and co will surely just make the market for the Drake horses Jeremy

    Won't be at any meetings this weekend but the standout entry at Ampton for me is the highly progressive What A Laugh who's 2/2 this season having taken his Maiden at Barbury in the final race of the two day meeting and then followed up in easy fashion at Chaddesley Corbett just after Christmas. Amtpon will be a different test in as much as it's more undulating than the two tracks he's run at previously but he garnered plenty of experience under rules in Ireland and he has the potential to progress into a useful Novice Hunter Chaser this season.
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    What A Laugh is a credit to all concerned with him - Richard Davies-Cooke for keeping the faith in owning Pointers after previous attempts to didn't even get as far as the racetrack; and Gary Hanmer for continuing to grasp the nettle in finding opportunities for his early-season horses with two months still to go before his native North West Area even hosts its first fixture.

    Hope you're right about the "home" horses making the market for Drake's on Sunday, Martin! Having checked I've been reminded that Keeverfield did go off as high as 8-1 for the same Conditions contest last season, but My Old Piano was a barely odds-against favourite that pushed everything else out that day and Keeverfield's performance still predated even the first part of his 2011 win spree.

    Suspect I'll be on e/w rather than win regardless, as I just have Keeverfield down as being a touch more vulnerable left-handed.

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    What does the knowledge make of the Hunters Chase in Newbury tomorrow? My Flora is running and would appear to have a decent chance...hot race for this time of year though. All opinions most welcome, not too knowledgeable on the English P2P form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trefflich View Post
    What does the knowledge make of the Hunters Chase in Newbury tomorrow? My Flora is running and would appear to have a decent chance...hot race for this time of year though. All opinions most welcome, not too knowledgeable on the English P2P form.
    My flora is in terrific form but as you say this is a hot hunters chase..... on form it looks like she has to find 25lbs with Alvarado but the latter his having it's first run for a new yard so hard to know!

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    I don't think there'd be too much in it between Alvarado and My Flora, MF is undoubtedly better over further but is IMO the most likely winner.

    Doesn't look like a massive betting race but Jane Williams gets on well with Billyvoddan and again interesting that the McCain's have booked Richie Harding to ride Cloudy Lane - presumably with a view to Cheltenham.

    Looks like a watching brief unless taking one of those at a bigger price - if Phillip Hemmings has sorted out Our Bob's jumping he'd be of interesting at 50/1+ but stamina doubts about him too though was a very decent novice hurdler a few years back.

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    Captive Audience is supposed to be Oliver Greenall's Foxhunter horse. Previously with Rebecca Curtis he was rated 140 over hurdles but hasn't yet run in points as far as I can work out. Any thoughts on him?

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    Can anyone enlighten me on a horse called Gee Hi?- It won a PTP in April 2010 at Lingstown, then 3 days later Aiden Murphy paid £80,000 for him. Hasn't seen a racetrack again until today(Taunton Bumper) and now with Charlie Egerton.

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    Won a Lingstown Maiden in April having been sold the previous year for 10,500. Two winners have come out of the race whilst David Pipe's useful African Broadway fell in the same event, interestingly the runner-up (then trained by Stuart Crawford) was sold to race in France after winning impressively NTO at Kirkistown where he's won a 22k Chase at Auteuil amongst other races whilst the other winner from the race was Definite Knockoff who is currently rated 86 over hurdles but has yet to contest a handicap.

    It's fair to assume the horse has had his problems since that win - would advise a watching brief today myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swedish chef View Post
    Can anyone enlighten me on a horse called Gee Hi?- It won a PTP in April 2010 at Lingstown, then 3 days later Aiden Murphy paid £80,000 for him. Hasn't seen a racetrack again until today(Taunton Bumper) and now with Charlie Egerton.

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