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    Punchestown 2022

    pigsback.com have a discount on Punchestown Race tickets until midnight tomorrow night.
    30Euro gets you entry with a fiver betting voucher, saving 20 Euro or so, open ticket valid any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    pigsback.com have a discount on Punchestown Race tickets until midnight tomorrow night.
    30Euro gets you entry with a fiver betting voucher, saving 20 Euro or so, open ticket valid any day.
    I wasn't planning on going but how can I turn down two tickets for €60. Thanks for posting.

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    Constitution Hill entered for Champion Hurdle

    Paddy Power dangle 100k Carrot

    https://www.irishracing.com/news?hea...l-&prid=231142

    It's on!
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    Wow! Make it happen, please.

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    Novices for Novices Nicky has always said. I will be shocked if he can't talk MB out of this craziness.
    I predict this is just another attempt by the media to create additional interest

    Constitution Hill has had only 4 runs in his life and one of them was a p2p.
    What he needs is another easy race at most then a long holiday to allow him to fully mature.

    Epatante just put up one of the best erformances of her life and she deserves another crack at Honeysuckly while
    Constitution Hill can take on whatever Willie runs in the Novice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Novices for Novices Nicky has always said. I will be shocked if he can't talk MB out of this craziness.
    I predict this is just another attempt by the media to create additional interest

    Constitution Hill has had only 4 runs in his life and one of them was a p2p.
    What he needs is another easy race at most then a long holiday to allow him to fully mature.

    Epatante just put up one of the best erformances of her life and she deserves another crack at Honeysuckly while
    Constitution Hill can take on whatever Willie runs in the Novice.
    Boring B*****d
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    If he were mines I'd be champing at the bit to take her on but that's why Nicky's a trainer and I'm a mad punter.
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    100,000 bonus it's worth taking her on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsider View Post
    100,000 bonus it's worth taking her on.
    He'll win a lot more than that over his career if they don't ruin him though Outsider. He just doesn't need this race so early in his career.

    A summer at grass, then three or four more races for experience before he takes her on is the route any sensible trainer would take.

    It won't happen, despite the Paddy Power publicity stunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruco View Post
    He'll win a lot more than that over his career if they don't ruin him though Outsider. He just doesn't need this race so early in his career.

    A summer at grass, then three or four more races for experience before he takes her on is the route any sensible trainer would take.

    It won't happen, despite the Paddy Power publicity stunt.

    A strained tendon? Three years of abortive comebacks? Die wondering?
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruco View Post
    He'll win a lot more than that over his career if they don't ruin him though Outsider. He just doesn't need this race so early in his career.

    A summer at grass, then three or four more races for experience before he takes her on is the route any sensible trainer would take.

    It won't happen, despite the Paddy Power publicity stunt.
    Complete B******s

    Alderbrook
    Royal Gait
    Thistlecrack
    Coneygree
    Noble Yeats

    All won biggies as novices, the best horses should be running in the best races not fannying about with novice races

    This is where the Flat beats the jumps, you only get 1 novice season on the flat then the good uns have to run in the big races

    Even Lyric Fantasy and Kingsgate Native won the Nunthorpe as 2yr olds

    Cut the crap Nicky and let it happen

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    You might also wrap up this CH within the ‘Horse Welfare’ thread. I’m conflicted, tbh. What a race this would be; truly a race for the ages. Constitution Hill would win by 5-10 lengths too, and we would shake our collective heads in disbelief, whilst screaming “Flippin’ Ada!”, or something like that. But...is this what we really want for an “on the verge of greatness” novice hurdler right now? As Tanlic says, we could wait less than a year for it to happen at Cheltenham.

    We also know that Hendo is very protective of his horses, and he’ll remember Sprinter Sacre’s 2013 Spring campaign at Cheltenham-Aintree-Punchestown, and whether that contributed to SS pulling up with his heart problems in the December of that year. Or do we accept that horses do go wrong, and that NOW is the time to let the two take each other on? Neither horse ran at Aintree - both will have had a six-week break after Cheltenham. I’d love for it to happen, but I’m also concerned for a novice hurdler.
    Last edited by Len Madeiros; 12th April 2022 at 10:33 AM.

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    Len: Why the concern for a horse you believe is about 7.5L superior? Is it purely the word 'novice' as a suffix?
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by an capall View Post
    A strained tendon? Three years of abortive comebacks? Die wondering?
    Who knows 'Monsignor'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truncheon View Post
    Complete B******s

    Alderbrook
    Royal Gait
    Thistlecrack
    Coneygree
    Noble Yeats

    All won biggies as novices, the best horses should be running in the best races not fannying about with novice races

    This is where the Flat beats the jumps, you only get 1 novice season on the flat then the good uns have to run in the big races

    Even Lyric Fantasy and Kingsgate Native won the Nunthorpe as 2yr olds

    Cut the crap Nicky and let it happen
    This is true Truncheon, but the list of horses where it's gone wrong or not worked is much longer, when compared to a very short list over a lot of years.

    You'd hope horses will have long careers, and they don't need to do it all in their first season racing, which is what none of those you list did either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truncheon View Post
    Complete B******s

    Alderbrook
    Royal Gait
    Thistlecrack
    Coneygree
    Noble Yeats

    All won biggies as novices, the best horses should be running in the best races not fannying about with novice races

    This is where the Flat beats the jumps, you only get 1 novice season on the flat then the good uns have to run in the big races

    Even Lyric Fantasy and Kingsgate Native won the Nunthorpe as 2yr olds

    Cut the crap Nicky and let it happen
    Royal Gait was a Ascot Gold Cup winner and a seasoned campaigner when he won the Champion . Alderbrook won nothing after the Champion Hurdle
    Thistlecrack had run 15 times including winning at Cheltenham before he ran in the king George then his career went to pot and Coneygree was never the same horse again

    Compare that to what was worse when Golden Cygnet Our Conor Gloria Victis all died when taking on their seniors.
    Last edited by Tanlic; 12th April 2022 at 11:50 AM.
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    Re the 100K .....10% will not influence Nicky Henderson one bit. He's lost more down the back of his couch when tippling
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    Quote Originally Posted by an capall View Post
    Len: Why the concern for a horse you believe is about 7.5L superior? Is it purely the word 'novice' as a suffix?
    I think it is, mate. I am quite squeamish when it comes to the welfare of horses, tbh. But you know if he did run, Hendo wouldn’t have a major concern that CH would come to any harm.

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