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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Will try some ew multiples somehow have to split them you could do them all with shorties in one or mix them up or alll the two pick ones t9gether really looking at thieving bets with a couple of speculative ones thrown in,quite a few of these are horses that very rarely of ever win just they ran well on last runs..prices are short enough as well with profiles so just multis at current odds will only be playing to buttons..You can do these bets everyday for a month and be lucky to hit one,i think they are better when ground is slower books make more mistakes will put a couple up but you will have a lot of losing bets before hitting one unless prices are miles out,which tomorrows definitely aren't.


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    Essaka 13/2 hills 6/1 365/sportsbook 2ND / Jaganory 8/1 sunbets/365

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    Madam jo jo 11/4 3652ND

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    Moqarrab 7/4 365 generally

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    Dalness express 6/1 365/ 11/2 sunbets victor / Monarch maid 8/12ND victor/365/sunbets/marathonbet/

    Wolves 5.50

    Belabour 14/1 sportsbook/ppower could leave this one out as at least one of higher rated horses has to not run to rating wouldn't be surprised if placed though.

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    Becker 5/1 sportsbook/ppower3RD

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    Beatbybeatbybeat 10/1 sportsbook/ppower could add Scrutiny 10/1-9/1 / Demphora 20/1 365/sportsbook/ppower/10bet/sportspres

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    Popsicle 11/1 365/skybet/hills
    After that winning leaves nice free bet on the 4pm at beverley or 8.45 at newbury..both horrendous races
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    hope you didnt help your daughter with her Maths

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    She's just calculating how many skips i will need!

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    Will just try a little ew multiple,just maidens that ran ok on debuts nothing special and one small single..

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    Dirty rascal 5/1 365/victor

    Bath 6.50

    Strictly tempo 4/1 365/skybet

    Kempton 6.40

    Sporting xchance 13/8 365/victor 6/4 generally

    Sportung chance won on debut run at wolves over 6fs,winning time looked pretty quixk for a debut run 1m13.48 with normal progress you'd expect the horse to be able to go well below 1m13 and not many races are run there in those sort of times so will risk a small bet even thoigh switched to Kempton going the otherway round.The form hasn't really worked out the 2nd that had previous experience has been beaten in a weaish maiden at notts and the third cupboard love 4ls behind won by 5ls next time out but then was easily beaten in again another weak maiden.The form looks mediocre the clock suggests its a good aw horse,with hannon,charlie hills,charlton and Johnston In there not worth risking more than a small bet with form being let down,but have to back it just because of winning time..Betting will be interesting as went off 6/4 on debut,could well go off pdds on if improvement is expected on top of debut.Maybe worth trading or reven getting a free bet..It looks the type that will either reaffirm the time and prove it's better than that or just completely bow out..
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    Leicester 8.50

    Brigadoon 14/1 365 12/1 skybet/sportsbook/ppower..

    A bit speculative as veteran now at 9,i can't ever remember backing the horse for years was rated 78 on turf l;ast season and was second and third off those marks as well last win on turf was 2016 and last win was 2017 on the aw at swell,obviously on downgrade now on a mark of just 60.
    This season hasn't shown much couple of reasonable runs on the aw in low 70s then two runs on turf beaten easily in both races,althouigh those races were a 0-70 and a 0-75 was third in the 0-75 although beaten 13ls had plenty of 70+ horses behiond.
    Tomorrow drops to 1m4fs not even sure that will suit and drawn out in the car psrk drawn 14,so could easily be a non trier from that draw from appleby stable,it's a terrible race though a 0-60 some of the form horses are actually going up in grade while brigaddon comes down..Might have to wait another race or two but in these 0-60 probably worth following for a copuple of runs as still retains enough ability to figure in these,will be watching closely...
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    Have backed evie speed 5.5 and 1.72 a place,decent speedfigure on debut at thirsk probably something like an 85 horse small trainer with garrity riding against bigger stables,should run ok though with improvement..

    Shouldv'e left it drifted from 3.55 thought there was some value there on the place with the drift,didn't seem bothered about winning or placing strange ride...one for nuseries by the looks..
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    Desperate stuff at the moment small fields too much racing first time in maybe three years i havn't done the cards racing far too diluted ,will have an ew multiple and maybe a couple of singles..

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    Welliesinthewater 12/1 365/skybet/betfred/totesport/betway/victor 10/1 unibet/marathonbet

    Would probably be a bit surprised if welliesinthwater were good enough to win this,a lot may depend on the ground as i've never seen fast ground on the round course even though it will show gd/fm you never ever see times even getting within a second or two on it over a mile,plus if it hasn't rained think they are watering anyway..Welliesinthwater had lots of racing mainly on the aw won plenty of races but pretty exposed although has only raced ten times on the turf and won twice last turf win was off 78 in june 2016 at donny over 7fs,made a rare appearence back over that c/d recently in a 0-95 running well in 5th escobars come out of that race and won and welliesinthwaters dropped another two pound.Tomorrow the race is a furlong further and as said on the round course,there are better class horses in the race like favourite storm ahead and one or two others but a few of them want softer ground..Probably worth a small bet after that run in a 0-95 its two best tur5f runs have been on this track although was the straight,am not a fan of seeing paddy mathers riding as always seems to be on the non triers but at least its turf rating has come down did run well at leicester last sesson off 89 so could figure as long as ground is on quick/good side,fav storm ahead looks the obvious one if more juice and sinfonietta both horses are better than these on ground with juice..Really if there's any juice or rain tomorrow he will probably be nearer last as a few in here are very well handicapped softer ground horses,the betting would completely turn around as well hopefully stays dry and not get left 10ls as he has had a habit of doing,not really a horse i have backed too often even on the aw..

    That was from the 19th of june,got well behind back over the 7fs tomorrow on straight track,the race looks impossible to me think its hard to rule anything out but horse is on that last winning mark over c/d,has an ew chance if getting away on terms.Can't believe i'm saying this but actually think the track needs some watering as it's very quick ground and not sure that will suit has never won in fast time even though form says run well on gd/fm..

    8.0

    King robert 10/1 365/skybet / Related 13/2 365 7/1 skybet/sunbets/betbright/victor

    King robert has become slightly disapointing in recent runs quite a difficult ride and visors and pieces have been played around with so not showing his true potential,was rated 95 at one point hasn't won on turf since 2015 and that was hios first two runs.He still retains plenty of ability but it's a matter of will he win a race,on debut run this season a decent 3rd in a 0-95 to gunmetal over c/d,thats decent form but disappointed at haydock in a similar race last time out although the first four came off the pace in a race he led.Tomorrow he gets to run in a 0-85 for the first time drops to just 85 graham lee rides been riding a few winners,think the worst he will do is be a decent trade can't really see him being bigger than 7/1 tops in this race [presuming it's trying bryan smarts horses havn't been winning but at least has had a few places.If he can repeat the thirsk penultimate run then should run well from the 13 draw,although the fact he hasn't won for two seasons on turf with various headgear shows how difficult he is to win with..The armed man ran disappointingly here last time out,had looked progressive and open to improvement may run better than thatb last run..

    Again from the 19th of june,that last run was abysmal,he may just be a dodgepot now i also noticed drifted like a barge in that race yet tomorrow is only the same prices with books and this race looks ultra conpetitve.The only positve i can see is,visors back on was on when last won on the aw 2017 off 89 ran its best form in it last season even though not still winning since 2015 on turf betting will be interesting as if it goes the same as last race will go off 20/1 hoping to see a bit of money for it.Again a bit like welliesinthwater how there is a bit of watering hasn't won on gd/fm but as above ran well behind gunmetal at thirsk in a 0-95..of just 83 tomorrow.
    Same with related hardly ever wins,impossible to predict,but back on last winning turf mark and been running quite well 3rd to brian the snail over c/d last time out in a 0- 95 so capable of running well in better class races but as form hoes run before that just fourth in one of these 0-85 at ayr.Just like the other picks i hopwe there's a bit of watering as the run at ayr was on quick groun=d,there look like loads of fast ground horses in this race that like the ground even though slightly stepping up in class..

    Lingfield 8.45

    Hilight 10/1 sportsbook/ppower/365/totesport/betfred/skybet/boyles/victor/10bet/betway/hills/marathonbet/188bet/sportspresa

    Hilight is the most interesting horse in the race,a weak 0-65 very few open to improvement on debut was sixth over 6fs here runnning on after giving 10ls away at start, winner and runner up rated 95 and 84,the thirds rated 71 came third at windsor on monday,fourth island of life rated
    75 those four runners are still lightly raced and open to imprivement and hiight was onl;y just over 5ls behind on debut.Has run twoce since at wolves and kermpton over 7fs,slowly run races and has looked very one paced in races was never going to win anmyway but only hit twice with the whip in three runs.Tomorrow gets in handicap off 62 charlie bennett takes off three down to just 59,very difficult to know what his trip or ground is after those aw runs was on soft side when ran here on debut,out of archipenko does have winners over 7fs and gd/fm ground but usually better over further and slightly better on slower ground,not great draw in 7 either ..Could be very well handicapped might be a case of long term project but this race is poor and that 6f run here looks good so worth paying to find out..
    Flying sakhee was a maiden till its c/d run,winning on 25th attemp as well that race looks better than this one even though same grade time was good as well and still sits on a mark of 48 if it puts it in like last run has to be involved in finish,also the other 3yr old from the 11 draw and charlie fellowes stable just three runs a third in a maiden at thirsk open to improvement wouldn't have to imprive much to figure in this if at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Desperate stuff at the moment small fields too much racing first time in maybe three years i havn't done the cards racing far too diluted ,will have an ew multiple and maybe a couple of singles..

    Newcastle 3.50

    Ventura ocean 11/10 365

    Doncaster 6.0

    Welliesinthewater 12/1 365/skybet/betfred/totesport/betway/victor 10/1 unibet/marathonbet

    Would probably be a bit surprised if welliesinthwater were good enough to win this,a lot may depend on the ground as i've never seen fast ground on the round course even though it will show gd/fm you never ever see times even getting within a second or two on it over a mile,plus if it hasn't rained think they are watering anyway..Welliesinthwater had lots of racing mainly on the aw won plenty of races but pretty exposed although has only raced ten times on the turf and won twice last turf win was off 78 in june 2016 at donny over 7fs,made a rare appearence back over that c/d recently in a 0-95 running well in 5th escobars come out of that race and won and welliesinthwaters dropped another two pound.Tomorrow the race is a furlong further and as said on the round course,there are better class horses in the race like favourite storm ahead and one or two others but a few of them want softer ground..Probably worth a small bet after that run in a 0-95 its two best tur5f runs have been on this track although was the straight,am not a fan of seeing paddy mathers riding as always seems to be on the non triers but at least its turf rating has come down did run well at leicester last sesson off 89 so could figure as long as ground is on quick/good side,fav storm ahead looks the obvious one if more juice and sinfonietta both horses are better than these on ground with juice..Really if there's any juice or rain tomorrow he will probably be nearer last as a few in here are very well handicapped softer ground horses,the betting would completely turn around as well hopefully stays dry and not get left 10ls as he has had a habit of doing,not really a horse i have backed too often even on the aw..

    That was from the 19th of june,got well behind back over the 7fs tomorrow on straight track,the race looks impossible to me think its hard to rule anything out but horse is on that last winning mark over c/d,has an ew chance if getting away on terms.Can't believe i'm saying this but actually think the track needs some watering as it's very quick ground and not sure that will suit has never won in fast time even though form says run well on gd/fm..

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    King robert 10/1 365/skybet / Related 13/2 365 7/1 skybet/sunbets/betbright/victor

    King robert has become slightly disapointing in recent runs quite a difficult ride and visors and pieces have been played around with so not showing his true potential,was rated 95 at one point hasn't won on turf since 2015 and that was hios first two runs.He still retains plenty of ability but it's a matter of will he win a race,on debut run this season a decent 3rd in a 0-95 to gunmetal over c/d,thats decent form but disappointed at haydock in a similar race last time out although the first four came off the pace in a race he led.Tomorrow he gets to run in a 0-85 for the first time drops to just 85 graham lee rides been riding a few winners,think the worst he will do is be a decent trade can't really see him being bigger than 7/1 tops in this race [presuming it's trying bryan smarts horses havn't been winning but at least has had a few places.If he can repeat the thirsk penultimate run then should run well from the 13 draw,although the fact he hasn't won for two seasons on turf with various headgear shows how difficult he is to win with..The armed man ran disappointingly here last time out,had looked progressive and open to improvement may run better than thatb last run..

    Again from the 19th of june,that last run was abysmal,he may just be a dodgepot now i also noticed drifted like a barge in that race yet tomorrow is only the same prices with books and this race looks ultra conpetitve.The only positve i can see is,visors back on was on when last won on the aw 2017 off 89 ran its best form in it last season even though not still winning since 2015 on turf betting will be interesting as if it goes the same as last race will go off 20/1 hoping to see a bit of money for it.Again a bit like welliesinthwater how there is a bit of watering hasn't won on gd/fm but as above ran well behind gunmetal at thirsk in a 0-95..of just 83 tomorrow.
    Same with related hardly ever wins,impossible to predict,but back on last winning turf mark and been running quite well 3rd to brian the snail over c/d last time out in a 0- 95 so capable of running well in better class races but as form hoes run before that just fourth in one of these 0-85 at ayr.Just like the other picks i hopwe there's a bit of watering as the run at ayr was on quick groun=d,there look like loads of fast ground horses in this race that like the ground even though slightly stepping up in class..

    Lingfield 8.45

    Hilight 10/1 sportsbook/ppower/365/totesport/betfred/skybet/boyles/victor/10bet/betway/hills/marathonbet/188bet/sportspresa

    Hilight is the most interesting horse in the race,a weak 0-65 very few open to improvement on debut was sixth over 6fs here runnning on after giving 10ls away at start, winner and runner up rated 95 and 84,the thirds rated 71 came third at windsor on monday,fourth island of life rated
    75 those four runners are still lightly raced and open to imprivement and hiight was onl;y just over 5ls behind on debut.Has run twoce since at wolves and kermpton over 7fs,slowly run races and has looked very one paced in races was never going to win anmyway but only hit twice with the whip in three runs.Tomorrow gets in handicap off 62 charlie bennett takes off three down to just 59,very difficult to know what his trip or ground is after those aw runs was on soft side when ran here on debut,out of archipenko does have winners over 7fs and gd/fm ground but usually better over further and slightly better on slower ground,not great draw in 7 either ..Could be very well handicapped might be a case of long term project but this race is poor and that 6f run here looks good so worth paying to find out..
    Flying sakhee was a maiden till its c/d run,winning on 25th attemp as well that race looks better than this one even though same grade time was good as well and still sits on a mark of 48 if it puts it in like last run has to be involved in finish,also the other 3yr old from the 11 draw and charlie fellowes stable just three runs a third in a maiden at thirsk open to improvement wouldn't have to imprive much to figure in this if at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Desperate stuff at the moment small fields too much racing first time in maybe three years i havn't done the cards racing far too diluted ,will have an ew multiple and maybe a couple of singles..

    Newcastle 3.50

    Ventura ocean 11/10 365

    Doncaster 6.0

    Welliesinthewater 12/1 365/skybet/betfred/totesport/betway/victor 10/1 unibet/marathonbet

    Would probably be a bit surprised if welliesinthwater were good enough to win this,a lot may depend on the ground as i've never seen fast ground on the round course even though it will show gd/fm you never ever see times even getting within a second or two on it over a mile,plus if it hasn't rained think they are watering anyway..Welliesinthwater had lots of racing mainly on the aw won plenty of races but pretty exposed although has only raced ten times on the turf and won twice last turf win was off 78 in june 2016 at donny over 7fs,made a rare appearence back over that c/d recently in a 0-95 running well in 5th escobars come out of that race and won and welliesinthwaters dropped another two pound.Tomorrow the race is a furlong further and as said on the round course,there are better class horses in the race like favourite storm ahead and one or two others but a few of them want softer ground..Probably worth a small bet after that run in a 0-95 its two best tur5f runs have been on this track although was the straight,am not a fan of seeing paddy mathers riding as always seems to be on the non triers but at least its turf rating has come down did run well at leicester last sesson off 89 so could figure as long as ground is on quick/good side,fav storm ahead looks the obvious one if more juice and sinfonietta both horses are better than these on ground with juice..Really if there's any juice or rain tomorrow he will probably be nearer last as a few in here are very well handicapped softer ground horses,the betting would completely turn around as well hopefully stays dry and not get left 10ls as he has had a habit of doing,not really a horse i have backed too often even on the aw..

    That was from the 19th of june,got well behind back over the 7fs tomorrow on straight track,the race looks impossible to me think its hard to rule anything out but horse is on that last winning mark over c/d,has an ew chance if getting away on terms.Can't believe i'm saying this but actually think the track needs some watering as it's very quick ground and not sure that will suit has never won in fast time even though form says run well on gd/fm..

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    King robert 10/1 365/skybet / Related 13/2 365 7/1 skybet/sunbets/betbright/victor

    King robert has become slightly disapointing in recent runs quite a difficult ride and visors and pieces have been played around with so not showing his true potential,was rated 95 at one point hasn't won on turf since 2015 and that was hios first two runs.He still retains plenty of ability but it's a matter of will he win a race,on debut run this season a decent 3rd in a 0-95 to gunmetal over c/d,thats decent form but disappointed at haydock in a similar race last time out although the first four came off the pace in a race he led.Tomorrow he gets to run in a 0-85 for the first time drops to just 85 graham lee rides been riding a few winners,think the worst he will do is be a decent trade can't really see him being bigger than 7/1 tops in this race [presuming it's trying bryan smarts horses havn't been winning but at least has had a few places.If he can repeat the thirsk penultimate run then should run well from the 13 draw,although the fact he hasn't won for two seasons on turf with various headgear shows how difficult he is to win with..The armed man ran disappointingly here last time out,had looked progressive and open to improvement may run better than thatb last run..

    Again from the 19th of june,that last run was abysmal,he may just be a dodgepot now i also noticed drifted like a barge in that race yet tomorrow is only the same prices with books and this race looks ultra conpetitve.The only positve i can see is,visors back on was on when last won on the aw 2017 off 89 ran its best form in it last season even though not still winning since 2015 on turf betting will be interesting as if it goes the same as last race will go off 20/1 hoping to see a bit of money for it.Again a bit like welliesinthwater how there is a bit of watering hasn't won on gd/fm but as above ran well behind gunmetal at thirsk in a 0-95..of just 83 tomorrow.
    Same with related hardly ever wins,impossible to predict,but back on last winning turf mark and been running quite well 3rd to brian the snail over c/d last time out in a 0- 95 so capable of running well in better class races but as form hoes run before that just fourth in one of these 0-85 at ayr.Just like the other picks i hopwe there's a bit of watering as the run at ayr was on quick groun=d,there look like loads of fast ground horses in this race that like the ground even though slightly stepping up in class..

    Couple of nice places again so unlucky gets all the ew money again though,turned into a cracking day!!

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    Hilight 10/1 sportsbook/ppower/365/totesport/betfred/skybet/boyles/victor/10bet/betway/hills/marathonbet/188bet/sportspresa

    Hilight is the most interesting horse in the race,a weak 0-65 very few open to improvement on debut was sixth over 6fs here runnning on after giving 10ls away at start, winner and runner up rated 95 and 84,the thirds rated 71 came third at windsor on monday,fourth island of life rated
    75 those four runners are still lightly raced and open to imprivement and hiight was onl;y just over 5ls behind on debut.Has run twoce since at wolves and kermpton over 7fs,slowly run races and has looked very one paced in races was never going to win anmyway but only hit twice with the whip in three runs.Tomorrow gets in handicap off 62 charlie bennett takes off three down to just 59,very difficult to know what his trip or ground is after those aw runs was on soft side when ran here on debut,out of archipenko does have winners over 7fs and gd/fm ground but usually better over further and slightly better on slower ground,not great draw in 7 either ..Could be very well handicapped might be a case of long term project but this race is poor and that 6f run here looks good so worth paying to find out..
    Flying sakhee was a maiden till its c/d run,winning on 25th attemp as well that race looks better than this one even though same grade time was good as well and still sits on a mark of 48 if it puts it in like last run has to be involved in finish,also the other 3yr old from the 11 draw and charlie fellowes stable just three runs a third in a maiden at thirsk open to improvement wouldn't have to imprive much to figure in this if at all.
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    Some cracking picks,so unlucky so close to a monster day hilight ended up on far rail looked beat then stayed on while winner came down the middle got 2 ew lucky 15s double the odds one winner should double there stakes easy ,great end to the month been a cracking weekk.every single was a winning bet frustrating not getting two winners...Just going to worj out multiples now..

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    Thanks Giggs, your pointers always make interesting reading.

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    Had a lucky 15 ew. treble odds one winner. So profit on day. Knew wellies was the one but had to do the lucky.
    One day! one day! Didn't do the short one as a named one popped up so added it instead. Legend still amd forever gigs.
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    Any for tomorrow Sunday is the lucky day. If your looking let us all know.
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    the 8.00 donny the trifecta paid 134.40 and the tricast paid 219.88, does that mean the trifecta was very popular and thats why the
    payout was poor compared to the tricast?

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    Decent single on wellies and the last one really liked them,wellies looked huge on its previous run i put it on here and the last one ground probably too quick and probably not far enough glad he kept riding as has landed me a nice touch did a couple of ew trixies once the first one got beat,so with all placing makes real good bets.The luckys returns are massive for $30 returns were $161 and 187 did them to tenners to decent day almost 6 times the stakes been a very good week 5 winners on monday as well p0lus 10/1 single ended the month a bit of a winning run..

    Was looking like a very poor month,but this week turned it around amazing had 5 winners monday and multiples then again another tiuch today..
    There were 32 actual singles only 6 winners but still turned that into a 50% ROI so can't complain winners of 10/1,8/1 and 12/1 biggest ones will probably be another month worse than this before the end of the year..Still write ups have thriwn up a few nice savers forecasts and the multiples are winning fortunes,just too much workload for me,might be having a break especially with these tracks overwatering would be better if they were just soft ground..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ulleyseys46 View Post
    the 8.00 donny the trifecta paid 134.40 and the tricast paid 219.88, does that mean the trifecta was very popular and thats why the
    payout was poor compared to the tricast?
    Yep although not total syurprise really as horses with names like king robert and related always runs there,purely put in combbinations because of names can be very annoying if you've got them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markssetgo View Post
    Any for tomorrow Sunday is the lucky day. If your looking let us all know.
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    Not touching windsor they are overwatering the track every songle meeting now,no gd/fm ground at all and they are waterubg again tonight be nearer gd/sft tomorrow all depending what they put on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Decent single on wellies and the last one really liked them,wellies looked huge on its previous run i put it on here and the last one ground probably too quick and probably not far enough glad he kept riding as has landed me a nice touch did a couple of ew trixies once the first one got beat,so with all placing makes real good bets.The luckys returns are massive for $30 returns were $161 and 187 did them to tenners to decent day almost 6 times the stakes been a very good week 5 winners on monday as well p0lus 10/1 single ended the month a bit of a winning run..

    Was looking like a very poor month,but this week turned it around amazing had 5 winners monday and multiples then again another tiuch today..
    There were 32 actual singles only 6 winners but still turned that into a 50% ROI so can't complain winners of 10/1,8/1 and 12/1 biggest ones will probably be another month worse than this before the end of the year..Still write ups have thriwn up a few nice savers forecasts and the multiples are winning fortunes,just too much workload for me,might be having a break especially with these tracks overwatering would be better if they were just soft ground..
    Cheers for todays winner but out of interest who were the 6 singles that won as they are the ones I bet (the multiples are too many perms for me so I dont bother) but only had Welliesinthewater and finished well down this month ? Not sure if I missed something but missing 5 winners. Was it Monday, but that said "ew multiples" ?

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