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    Will try some small ew multiples,my confidence is getting undone with overwatering some are riding almost gd/sft while others seem fine seems a bit of a lottery with going reports..could leave the first one out at notts as very short price poor draw in 1 ran well at wolves last time out might be a better aw horses opposed to turf form plus decent trainers in race..


    Newbury 3.20

    Wind in my sails 10/1 365 7/1 betfred/totesport / Himself 14/1 sportsbook/ppower 12/1 hills/betfred/totesport

    Wide open race,wind in my sails hasn't won on turf since 2016 but runs off lowest mark since that win now off just 78 when winning over this c/d,
    ran 5th in a 0-95 at Windsor on seasonal debut then disappointed at bath slightly although the second breanski won today at Yarmouth.He was 3rd in this race last season off 82 so likes the track so if back to best would have an ew chance.
    Lots of unexposed 4yr olds in the race probably winner will come from one of these lightly raced runners ,himself looks to have an ew chnce been running well on the aw conceded loads of ground at Kempton over a mile last time out finishing well,previous to that was 5th at notts again getting left at start was running on nearest finish sae graded race as tomorrows..

    5.10

    Hawridge glory 10/1 365 8/1 victor/ 15/2 sunbets/lads/betway/

    Hawridge glory exposed but usually runs well in these races and sometimes higher grade went off 9/2 fav in a 0-80 at Windsor recently finishing 3rd to dream machine but then disappointed at goodwood unplaced,patrick millman has won on It both wins highest winning msrk is only 63 but as the 0-80 shows in these 0-70s is more than capable of placing at worst especially with amateur that knows the horse well..

    Nottingham 1.40

    Finoah 2/1 generally 11/4 corals/lads

    Finoahs turf form doesn't look upto much but when swutched tio wolves over 6fs on the aw that looked a decent piece of form,the winner I think could be top class,has something to prove back on the turf race is full of top trainers also has a poor drawn in 1.If it doesn't bring that wolbes form to the turf think it will be a nice one for aw handicaps,already been gambl;es in race so think it might even druft yet anyway..





    2.40

    Sharamm 4/7 365

    Sharamm looked to run a decent time on debut at Donny only .37 above standard over 6fs fastest race on the card,even the class 3 handicap was only 1.18 seconds abiove standard that race won by Spanish city so fior a debut run l;ooked very quick..Open to loads of improvement this could go off 5s on unless there's something special lurking first time out or unless ground has been overwatered.

    3.10

    Hallstatt 10/1 betbright 9/1 365/lads/betway/victor/ skybet/totesport/boyles/hills/188bet / Stynes 7/2 ppower/sportsbook/hills/marathonbet/skybet 4/1 unibet

    Veteran now halstatt,hasn't won on the turf since 2016 but this is his track quite a few unexposed ones in the race but he has a ew chance off 63 as usually contests slightly better races already been 3rd over this c/d this season in a 0-75 cps were put on last time out so maybe didn't like them ,2016 since last turf win maybe even have to drop lower in grade to get that win but did win two aw races in 2017.A lot might depend on wether he can lay up without expending too much as terrible draw in 11,if he can then place chances in a poor race..
    Stynes has been chasing for new trainer and won off 126 at sell recently now off 132 over fences,hasn't run on turf since winning off 52 back in 2016 returns of just 61 back on the level,such a weak race and horse been in such good forn for new stable they are giving the flat ago,hard to judge it on chase form but these are slow don;'t think you will see him again on turf if he doesn't figure in this race..The obvious dangers are spiritoftomintoul and strictly art..

    Yarmouth 5.20

    Daring guest 14/1 ppower/sportsbook 16/1 generally now reflected in unreliability / La isla bonita 8/1 sportsbook/ppower

    They put plenty of water down at Yarmouth today,am hoping they might put a little more down tonight twio of todays winners at the track will probably be running again tomorrow in this race so they will take some beating,la isla bonita ran here last time out and was slightly weaker race behind wild acclaim winner there today and in this race tomorrow.He was away from the pace when 5th that day, the first four all nearer standside so maybe an excuise and previous run had run on softer ground in better race 4th over c/d again in a 0-70 has only had twelve lifetime runs in this 0-65
    Daring guest is a bit of a dodgepot impossible to predict especially on turf misses the break more often than not, never figures then other races like it did at brighton when third behind nutini in a 0-70 recently,have looked through his form and maybe just needs dead ground,similar to todays but hopefully even slower a bit of watering would not go amiss.Won over tomorrows c/d off 65 last season with t tomorrows jock on jane Elliot claiming three lowest ever turf mark.If gets out on terms would be a big price in this race although more often than not loses race at start...

    Realistically looking at places rather than winners have chosen the most competitive races because of 16 runners but no doubt there will be non runners..
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    Just spent an hour an hour and a half typing it out and everythings crashed on me,am not doing it again spend a day doing the form and then write ups get deleted really takes the ****..hard enough trying to keep track as it is without having to retype everything twice..

    Wrote something brief as can't bare to see something with just prices up..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Just spent an hour an hour and a half typing it out and everythings crashed on me,am not doing it again spend a day doing the form and then write ups get deleted really takes the ****..hard enough trying to keep track as it is without having to retype everything twice..
    Thought I typed slowly

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    Nice couple of winners Giggs

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Will try some small ew multiples,my confidence is getting undone with overwatering some are riding almost gd/sft while others seem fine seems a bit of a lottery with going reports..could leave the first one out at notts as very short price poor draw in 1 ran well at wolves last time out might be a better aw horses opposed to turf form plus decent trainers in race..


    Newbury 3.20

    Wind in my sails 10/1 365 7/1 betfred/totesport / Himself 14/1 sportsbook/ppower 12/1 hills/betfred/totesport

    Wide open race,wind in my sails hasn't won on turf since 2016 but runs off lowest mark since that win now off just 78 when winning over this c/d,
    ran 5th in a 0-95 at Windsor on seasonal debut then disappointed at bath slightly although the second breanski won today at Yarmouth.He was 3rd in this race last season off 82 so likes the track so if back to best would have an ew chance.
    Lots of unexposed 4yr olds in the race probably winner will come from one of these lightly raced runners ,himself looks to have an ew chnce been running well on the aw conceded loads of ground at Kempton over a mile last time out finishing well,previous to that was 5th at notts again getting left at start was running on nearest finish sae graded race as tomorrows..

    5.10

    Hawridge glory 10/1 365 8/1 victor/ 15/2 sunbets/lads/betway/

    Hawridge glory exposed but usually runs well in these races and sometimes higher grade went off 9/2 fav in a 0-80 at Windsor recently finishing 3rd to dream machine but then disappointed at goodwood unplaced,patrick millman has won on It both wins highest winning msrk is only 63 but as the 0-80 shows in these 0-70s is more than capable of placing at worst especially with amateur that knows the horse well..

    Nottingham 1.40

    Finoah 2/1 generally 11/4 corals/lads

    Finoahs turf form doesn't look upto much but when swutched tio wolves over 6fs on the aw that looked a decent piece of form,the winner I think could be top class,has something to prove back on the turf race is full of top trainers also has a poor drawn in 1.If it doesn't bring that wolbes form to the turf think it will be a nice one for aw handicaps,already been gambl;es in race so think it might even druft yet anyway..





    2.40

    Sharamm 4/7 365

    Sharamm looked to run a decent time on debut at Donny only .37 above standard over 6fs fastest race on the card,even the class 3 handicap was only 1.18 seconds abiove standard that race won by Spanish city so fior a debut run l;ooked very quick..Open to loads of improvement this could go off 5s on unless there's something special lurking first time out or unless ground has been overwatered.

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    3.10

    Hallstatt 10/1 betbright 9/1 365/lads/betway/victor/ skybet/totesport/boyles/hills/188bet / Stynes 7/2 ppower/sportsbook/hills/marathonbet/skybet 4/1 unibet

    Veteran now halstatt,hasn't won on the turf since 2016 but this is his track quite a few unexposed ones in the race but he has a ew chance off 63 as usually contests slightly better races already been 3rd over this c/d this season in a 0-75 cps were put on last time out so maybe didn't like them ,2016 since last turf win maybe even have to drop lower in grade to get that win but did win two aw races in 2017.A lot might depend on wether he can lay up without expending too much as terrible draw in 11,if he can then place chances in a poor race..
    Stynes has been chasing for new trainer and won off 126 at sell recently now off 132 over fences,hasn't run on turf since winning off 52 back in 2016 returns of just 61 back on the level,such a weak race and horse been in such good forn for new stable they are giving the flat ago,hard to judge it on chase form but these are slow don;'t think you will see him again on turf if he doesn't figure in this race..The obvious dangers are spiritoftomintoul and strictly art..

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    Yarmouth 5.20

    Daring guest 14/1 ppower/sportsbook 16/1 generally now reflected in unreliability / La isla bonita 8/1 sportsbook/ppower

    They put plenty of water down at Yarmouth today,am hoping they might put a little more down tonight twio of todays winners at the track will probably be running again tomorrow in this race so they will take some beating,la isla bonita ran here last time out and was slightly weaker race behind wild acclaim winner there today and in this race tomorrow.He was away from the pace when 5th that day, the first four all nearer standside so maybe an excuise and previous run had run on softer ground in better race 4th over c/d again in a 0-70 has only had twelve lifetime runs in this 0-65
    Daring guest is a bit of a dodgepot impossible to predict especially on turf misses the break more often than not, never figures then other races like it did at brighton when third behind nutini in a 0-70 recently,have looked through his form and maybe just needs dead ground,similar to todays but hopefully even slower a bit of watering would not go amiss.Won over tomorrows c/d off 65 last season with t tomorrows jock on jane Elliot claiming three lowest ever turf mark.If gets out on terms would be a big price in this race although more often than not loses race at start...

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    Realistically looking at places rather than winners have chosen the most competitive races because of 16 runners but no doubt there will be non runners..
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    Doncaster 2.10

    Welliesinthewater 8/1 lads 15/2 corals/victor..7/1 boyles/betbright/10bet.

    Would probably be a bit surprised if welliesinthwater were good enough to win this,a lot may depend on the ground as i've never seen fast ground on the round course even though it will show gd/fm you never ever see times even getting within a second or two on it over a mile,plus if it hasn't rained think they are watering anyway..Welliesinthwater had lots of racing mainly on the aw won plenty of races but pretty exposed although has only raced ten times on the turf and won twice last turf win was off 78 in june 2016 at donny over 7fs,made a rare appearence back over that c/d recently in a 0-95 running well in 5th escobars come out of that race and won and welliesinthwaters dropped another two pound.Tomorrow the race is a furlong further and as said on the round course,there are better class horses in the race like favourite storm ahead and one or two others but a few of them want softer ground..Probably worth a small bet after that run in a 0-95 its two best tur5f runs have been on this track although was the straight,am not a fan of seeing paddy mathers riding as always seems to be on the non triers but at least its turf rating has come down did run well at leicester last sesson off 89 so could figure as long as ground is on quick/good side,fav storm ahead looks the obvious one if more juice and sinfonietta both horses are better than these on ground with juice..Really if there's any juice or rain tomorrow he will probably be nearer last as a few in here are very well handicapped softer ground horses,the betting would completely turn around as well hopefully stays dry and not get left 10ls as he has had a habit of doing,not really a horse i have backed too often even on the aw.

    Thought it was a bit speculative when i saw bends being watered now 7mm of rain overnight and more drizzle tis morning all the soft ground horses backed and this one drifted,do they ever get these weather forecasts right last night at 3am no rain and non forecast constantly wrong...Will be surprised if ths can figure now even though they put gd/fm gd in places it will be nearer gd/gd/sft which it hasn't shown anything on..the standard time will be interesting my guess is it will be 3-4 seconds outside standard maybe more all depending on how much water they..
    have put down ..Currently 9/1 now..

    Actually think the going was perfectly fine looking at how the race was run,the soft ground horses ran poorly trouble is thety went no pace and couldn't get at the leader which is a 1m2f horse,i would back welliesinthewater back at donny onj the straight track in a bigger field just wasn't enoiugh pace on for him was only just getting into it at finish..
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    Really don't like much again tomorrow lots marked off but prices are about right will have a token bet in the last at carlisle..might do some multiples yet but just a small single on this one..

    Carlisle 5.30

    Donnachies girl 15/2 ppower/sportsbook/ 7/1 skybet/lads/sunbets/corals/betfred/betay/betbright/

    Donnachies girl has won 4/18 runs highest winning mark of 74 has strange looking profile running well on different grounds and trips not a horse i've ever backed hasn't run in a 0-70 since october 2017 and is running of 72 tomorrow with rowan scott taking off another three,might be exposed now has had three runs this season but in a 0-95 a 0-80 and anotyer 0-95.Am not sure this shorter trip on fast ground will suit either,although ran third in may to to rainbow rebel and star of the east beaten a fair distance 7 1/2ls but both have won since and the time of the race was fast by 1.4 seconds and was there till the twp fulong pole so it looks as thouigh faster ground should be okn and maybr the trip will be ok dropping in class.The negative has to be the trainer allistair whillans just two winners all season and his last 7 runners have been last or second last,probably wouldv;'e been nearer to being fav if trainer wasn't on such poor run.Previous winning jock is back on hasn't riode it last four raqces,you might have to wait for stable to come back to form before this one wins again,but at least ground,trip,going righthanded and previous winning jock is riding..The two favs regal mirage and wotabreeze both look quite well in on their best form and they will prefer the quicker ground as opposed to the slower ground they ran on at ripon..the obvious two.

    Another farce of a race fast ground and race run at a crawl slow by 6.57 seconds be worth following again,that was the problem as write up normall rujns ober further plus they went no pace..
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    Thirsk 3.55

    King robert 12/1 365/hills 11/1 totesport/betfred

    King robert has become slightly disapointing in recent runs quite a difficult ride and visors and pieces have been played around with so not showing his true potential,was rated 95 at one point hasn't won on turf since 2015 and that was hios first two runs.He still retains plenty of ability but it's a matter of will he win a race,on debut run this season a decent 3rd in a 0-95 to gunmetal over c/d,thats decent form but disappointed at haydock in a similar race last time out although the first four came off the pace in a race he led.Tomorrow he gets to run in a 0-85 for the first time drops to just 85 graham lee rides been riding a few winners,think the worst he will do is be a decent trade can't really see him being bigger than 7/1 tops in this race [presuming it's trying bryan smarts horses havn't been winning but at least has had a few places.If he can repeat the thirsk penultimate run then should run well from the 13 draw,although the fact he hasn't won for two seasons on turf with various headgear shows how difficult he is to win with..The armed man ran disappointingly here last time out,had looked progressive and open to improvement may run better than thatb last run,,


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    Laughton 7/1 ppower/sportsbook
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Thirsk 3.55

    King robert 12/1 365/hills 11/1 totesport/betfred

    King robert has become slightly disapointing in recent runs quite a difficult ride and visors and pieces have been played around with so not showing his true potential,was rated 95 at one point hasn't won on turf since 2015 and that was hios first two runs.He still retains plenty of ability but it's a matter of will he win a race,on debut run this season a decent 3rd in a 0-95 to gunmetal over c/d,thats decent form but disappointed at haydock in a similar race last time out although the first four came off the pace in a race he led.Tomorrow he gets to run in a 0-85 for the first time drops to just 85 graham lee rides been riding a few winners,think the worst he will do is be a decent trade can't really see him being bigger than 7/1 tops in this race [presuming it's trying bryan smarts horses havn't been winning but at least has had a few places.If he can repeat the thirsk penultimate run then should run well from the 13 draw,although the fact he hasn't won for two seasons on turf with various headgear shows how difficult he is to win with..The armed man ran disappointingly here last time out,had looked progressive and open to improvement may run better than thatb last run,,

    Had saver on the armed man at 13/2 so saves the day,i backed it last time it ran there looked progressive hasd the draw a stinking drift on king robert just before the off as weell 5.6 out to 8.6 in two minutes was never there to win and laughton missed the break getting absolutely no lluck and that laughton form is brilliant as only just finished behind the armed man last week..Maybe worth another chance but only at a decent prices.






    2.45

    Laughton 7/1 ppower/sportsbook
    Laughton has been on downgrade for a while has looked one to avoid,was rated 82 2017 but completely deteriorated been nearer first than last all runs and now running in low grade sprints,hasn't won since june 2016 so could only be a token bet.Lasrt time out blinkers were on first time over tomorrows track but over 6fs,fifth of fifteen in a 0-75 only decent turf run since last july when 5th at same track thirsk off 81,last weeks race was also short of room in running as well.Tomorrows race just a 0-65 has to run two decent races back to back but never run in this grade before and blinkers back on again if it repeats that form of last week and stable expect it to then will probably be heavily backed in this grade,could go off very short probably around 7/2- 3/1 so maybe a decent trade.Trainers not in great form but got jock to take off another three from last weeks run down to just a mark of 62...

    11/2 hills.


    King robert 12/1 ppower/sportsbook

    Racings a bit of a joke betting wise,every single meeting has firm in the description yet all the times point to good ground at best no chance any of the meetings had any firm in them today essentially means if you're doing form and having bets with horses fot gd/fm preference then you will be bettuing them on the wrong ground..
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    Norfolk

    Glory fighter 14/1 365/lads/hills/boyles


    Hasn't been much to go on withy the 2yr olds this season,some very mediocre times on the clock usually loads of pointers been very few leading upto Ascot that being the case should tell you that wesley ward could dominate these races as he has had decent ones here in the past and always good on the clock so unless the horses over here show a lot more improvement he may clean up.As you'd expect they have all been priced up accordingly,there's only ten runners in the norfolk strange such few entrys,charlie hills had mutawaffer and glory fighter entered has left glory fighter in,was second in the opening newbury maiden this season form i think is still ok but those horses will be seen to better effect when soft ground comes round again.He then went to lingfield and broke the juvenile track record,was given a race by the second, has won since but still won with a bit in hand there was a 0-095 on the card run at a furious gallop won by rebecca rocks and glory fighters race was only .17 slower but glory fighter looked superior to those horses with style of win and more to come.Glory fighter looks a group horse perhaps not a group 2 winner but at least has proved itself on the clock and worth a small interest ..

    16/1 corals..
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    Daily picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
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    Natalies joy 16/1 sportsbook/ 14/1 ppower

    Mark Johnston 2yr old filly Natalie's joy hacking up by 6ls and looking good for more today at goodwood,time was only .18 slower than standard and .72 quicker than the older horses handicap won by 79 rated Englishman one of the best times by far this season especially on debut.So far prices have only come up for Albany,they look absolutely huge on that run today even though fairyland is entered as 5/2 fav so far only three priced up but there's nothing else that's run that looks outstanding,probably suggests it may niot run in this race but out of lope de vega unless its not going to run in this then maybe not run at ascot,regardless it's still worth risking as you'd have to back her in anything she's entered at these sort of prices even if she doesn't run.Sire lope de vegas progeny usually do better over further 7fs and a mile so she's obviously one to watch very closely in future,i was looking at queen mary but so far sires only had 2 winners from 44 runners over 5fs so seems unlikely but would still back her if entered although that would look the wrong race to me..Could yet be looking at next years 1000 guineas runner for Johnston,have been watching the Johnston horses closely and hasn't had anything outstanding yet from 2yr old,one that won at newbury last week I have as best before this one,this has looked his best..
    If she does stay entered in this even with O'Brien horses entered I would be amazed if any books are laying prices bigger than 7-8/1 tops once declared,even at those prices on what's been seen so far that would still look a bit of value on times going into the race..Also you will see timeform highlighting this time and hugh taylor and maybe an antepost bet once definitely declared..
    Think its running the Chesham (7f) on Sat instead, unfortunately.

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    I couldv'e easily taken the 7/1 for natalies joy in the chesham as well,even 5/1 as was obvious last week was going to be running in it later in the week now 5/2 -9/4..

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    Hors de combat 50/1 365/lads 60s with lads price boost/corals

    Hors de combat seven year old now,but still showing decent standard of ability has already won in meydan off 100 this season in February he hasn't won very often three times but they save him for the ground very lightly raced record is 3/31 is stuck in the low 100s but more often than not runs respectably.He ran in the corresponding race last season was 13/29 but at the two furlong pole got hampered and stopped in run,shuffled back to last five or six and then picked up again to pass maybe eight or nine runners and still finishing strongest at finish.He maybe an unlikely winner lots of new horses in this years race but he could run well as likes the track,the trip and probable ground good or preferably faster,usually goes off nearer 16/1 in these races as last year so three times the price he has been previously infact he's never been bigger than 25/1 in his thirty races.Would be amazed if he's not half these odds by the off or even slightky shorter has already run two nice races in meydan in competitive handicaps for horses rated up to 108 and 115 finishing 1st and 3rd,the prices look big as he's almost a guaranteed runner
    Afaak 12/1 365/skybet/hills/sportsbook/ppower/betfred/boyles/totesport/betway/sportingbet/188bet/victor..


    Going to have a small bet on Afaak as well the race does look impossible as with quite a few improvers including this one,he won at York on ninth ever run beating love dreams by an easy 1 1/2ls love dreams going onto win a 0-105 at goodwood next run winning easily,Baraweez has won twice since including a 0-105 was in that York race over 7ls behind afaak.Mythical madness got touched off out of that race at Epsom on Saturday runner up in a 0-105 as well and Qaffaal 9ls behind won on Saturday night at Chelmsford,those formlines don't necessarily make it look thrown in but the form is rock solid and he did look like there was a lot more to come,did look quite green in that race at York as well drifting left.The mile at ascot looks like it will suit,fast or good ground looks perfect travels strongly as well big advantage there and again looks almost guaranteed to run with those conditions..


    Have had a right touch backed the pair ew last night at 14/1 and 50/1 for 6 and 7 places,finishing like a rocket hors decombat think its come 5th or 6th lovely touch..

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    As did I , but Sky have marked my hors de combat as a loss!. I placed that bet ages ago due to someone on here, or long shot thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirkydiggs View Post
    As did I , but Sky have marked my hors de combat as a loss!. I placed that bet ages ago due to someone on here, or long shot thread!

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    All our ante post bets placed when tipped on here aren't settled at 7 places

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    Took 40/1 with sky and 50/1 with a couple of firms last night think i got a bet of 16s on afaak as well,turned the month right round couldn't believe the prices and place offers last night increduble finished 6th hors decombart..another 100 yards second..no reason not to bet them again as same or bigger pruces with extra places i expected them to be 25/1 and around 7/1...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 310884MONTYS View Post
    All our ante post bets placed when tipped on here aren't settled at 7 places

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    Just been chatting to skybet, yea only paying 4 places when the original bet placed..... one to learn from and make a mental note of !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirkydiggs View Post
    Just been chatting to skybet, yea only paying 4 places when the original bet placed..... one to learn from and make a mental note of !


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    If the prices are still there on the day of the race there's absolutely no reason not to back them afaak was bigger i assumed everyone wouldv'e backed hors de combat with extra places at those odds that's where it was always likely to finish anyway as write up suggested..loads of runners in that race had something to prove and they did nothing..

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