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    Art Power 2.20A Will revel in the soft going at Ascot, and is fully expected to turn around Haydock form with Dream Of Dreams on this ground and over this much stiffer test. Got outpaced there, (on ground deemed g,s by the RP) but was coming back at the winner in the closing stages.Can't have him out the frame, no matter what. 11/1 - 4 places,B365.

    Mehdaayih 2.30A must have been showing plenty at home, as Frankie swerves the 2 Oppenheimer entrants to take the mount.
    8/1 B365.
    EWD the 2 - pays c137/1, should they both clock in.
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    I think just about all of my bets are up on either the ante-post thread or the longshot one but I firmed up today on Serpentine at 14/1 to 4 places rather than 16s to 3 places.

    I'm still a big fan of his Derby form and my rating for him is ahead of anything any of the others have done in their career. My only concern is whether he handles the ground. If he does those prices could look pretty big come 3.45pm.
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    Roseman 3.05A thrives on soft ground, and was consequently an outpaced 4th in the Queen Anne, after the official going was elevated to good. Exactly the same happened in the Ispahan, so he had little chance in what turned out a typical 'stack & sprint'.
    Worth a small ew at B365's 33/1 (4 places) to make the frame today.
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    The Ascot card is tough. The long distance, sprint and mares I can't find anything in aside from Trueshan ew now 4pl are available.
    The Revenant ap and Mishriff the only proper bets (the latter I was gonna leave but the drift to 9/2 is too much)
    One other bet today is Le Patriote at 10/3 in the novice chase at Market Rasen. Pic D'Orhy won a terrible betfair hurdle and 8/11 is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Pic D'Orhy won a terrible betfair hurdle
    I don't believe there is such a thing as a terrible Betfair Hurdle. You've got 20 runners or thereabouts most of which have been plotted up for it for long enough, it's usually run at a strong gallop and the form usually works out very well over time. The prize on offer dictates that it's among the hottest races in the hurdles calendar. Personally, I think in the last 10 years the County has usurped it for overall quality but it's probably at least the second best handicap hurdle of any season. I don't see why Pic D'Orhy's should be seen in any less positive a light but it might have no bearing on a novices' chase.
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    The start was a shitshow. And the pumpkin horses in those colours are always overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    The start was a shitshow. And the pumpkin horses in those colours are always overrated.
    Maybe true on both counts but does it amount to evidence of a terrible race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    The Ascot card is tough. The long distance, sprint and mares I can't find anything in aside from Trueshan ew now 4pl are available.
    The Revenant ap and Mishriff the only proper bets (the latter I was gonna leave but the drift to 9/2 is too much)
    One other bet today is Le Patriote at 10/3 in the novice chase at Market Rasen. Pic D'Orhy won a terrible betfair hurdle and 8/11 is silly.
    Tough indeed. The only ones I'm really confident on, (taking into account the betting market) , are Sonaiyla in the Sprint and Skalleti in the main event.

    There's been no non runners in the Balmoral so Revich won't get a run. I've substituted in Tempus for a sporting selection.

    Sovereign looked all the rage in the betting yesterday, but now out to 16/1, while the other Ballydoyle runner Dawn Patrol attracts support on the day.

    Good luck all bettors, let's hope someone gets a few winners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    The Ascot card is tough. The long distance, sprint and mares I can't find anything in aside from Trueshan ew now 4pl are available.
    The Revenant ap and Mishriff the only proper bets (the latter I was gonna leave but the drift to 9/2 is too much)
    One other bet today is Le Patriote at 10/3 in the novice chase at Market Rasen. Pic D'Orhy won a terrible betfair hurdle and 8/11 is silly.
    Following you in on Le Patriote. Agree that Pic d’Orhy was flattered as several fancied ones were done at the start and plenty of others were badly hampered at the last IIRC

    Two others at Market Rasen I’ve backed are
    Dream Berry (3.21). Down in class and goes well here
    Luckofthedraw (4.31). Can better his 5th over C&D last time out in what looks a decent race eased 1lb


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    Best bet for me in Hong Kong tomorrow morning (10.50) is: The Hulk

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    Sepentine 3.40A Wm Buick to ride his pace special.
    EW 14/1 = 4 places,Sky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    Roseman 3.05A thrives on soft ground, and was consequently an outpaced 4th in the Queen Anne, after the official going was elevated to good. Exactly the same happened in the Ispahan, so he had little chance in what turned out a typical 'stack & sprint'.
    Worth a small ew at B365's 33/1 (4 places) to make the frame today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I think just about all of my bets are up on either the ante-post thread or the longshot one but I firmed up today on Serpentine at 14/1 to 4 places rather than 16s to 3 places.
    Job done with the BOG (18/1).
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    Tempus 13/2 B365 last attempt to get one in the winner's enclosure.
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    I see Lightly Squeeze runs in the Welsh Champion Hurdle today. He was one of my Cesarewitch selections with Hayley Turner booked at the bottom of the weights but missed the cut. He was also taken out of his Silver Trophy engagement on the same day but turns up here.

    I haven't looked at the form for today's race so I'm putting it up half-blind (in more ways than one) but along with Remiluc and The Bannerkingrebel represents the Betfair Hurdle form. Those with elephantine memories will recall that The Bannerkingrebel was one of my main bets for the race while Remiluc (at very long odds) and the winner Pic D'Orhy were put up on the longshot thread so I kind of have a vested interest in how that form pans out.

    Lightly Squeeze was well there when falling at the last and the handicapper put up both him and Remiluc by 3lbs so you could argue that the official view is that Lightly Squeeze would have finished right beside Remiluc in the photo.

    The Bannerkingrebel was left alone so is 3lbs better off and has a 10lbs claimer but I'm more inclined to interpret (probably to my cost) that booking as a negative regarding his readiness. Lightly Squeeze, though, would have been fit for Newmarket and I suspect will be off here before being prepared for Newbury again. Consequently I have taken the plunge today at 15/2.
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    Interesting little teaser at Ffos Las 2:35 Novice chase, just three runners and all highly thought of 6/4 Fiddlerontheroof top ranked novice hurdler who has apparently schooled very well and said to be up there with the best novice jumpers the Tizzards have had. 15/8 Emitom, 2/1 classy hurdler and chase experienced after the one satisfactory run, Greatrix sees him up there with the best in terms of potential 2/1 If The Cap Fits. Grade 1 hurdler and if he could reproduce that over fences he’d be very difficult to beat.

    Pay your money, take your choice or just watch with interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    The Bannerkingrebel was left alone so is 3lbs better off and has a 10lbs claimer
    Brain fart.

    Got TBKR mixed up with Remiluc. JJON Jr rides TBKR who is now favourite. LS very weak. Suspect avdunmadoh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlaceBacker View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by barjon View Post
    Interesting little teaser at Ffos Las 2:35 Novice chase, just three runners and all highly thought of 6/4 Fiddlerontheroof top ranked novice hurdler who has apparently schooled very well and said to be up there with the best novice jumpers the Tizzards have had. 15/8 Emitom, 2/1 classy hurdler and chase experienced after the one satisfactory run, Greatrix sees him up there with the best in terms of potential 2/1 If The Cap Fits. Grade 1 hurdler and if he could reproduce that over fences he’d be very difficult to beat.

    Pay your money, take your choice or just watch with interest.
    An interesting little race alright. Emitom wouldn’t have been helped by having to make his own running last time and he ended up setting it up for a fast finisher. It may be the same today although Fiddlerontheroof has made all before. If they take each other on that might just set it up for If The Cap Fits who was the best over hurdles. Probably a race to leave alone but Emitom would be my bet if forced.

    In the 2.57 at Kempton the form of Mr Medic’s 2nd to a highly progressive sort at Exeter (giving 13lb) stands out IMO


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    Plenty to watch with the future in mind, but bets today are:


    Each Way Double
    Ffos Las 3.45 Elan De Balme 5/1
    Sedgefield 5.10 Kajaki 12/1

    Each Way Trixie
    Ffos Las
    1.30 Rose Of Arcadia 13/8
    4.55 Investment Manager 9/2
    Sedgefield
    5.40 Dargianini 2/1

    Plus an each way acca on them all.
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