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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    At the risk of rattling cages again, for me what's wrong with racing is that bookies run it and are 'way too powerful.
    I actually agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double J View Post
    Scenario, there was no such thing as gambling, people paid to watch horse racing and cheer a horse as they would football. Do you believe the outcome and winners of races would change? I've always thought yes.

    Hindsight Is a wonderful thing, and now understanding racing a little bit more I now say no. But I was shouting to high heaven that Ruby came off Annie Power deliberately that day. Undoubtedly pocket talk, but such things do make you wonder. I'm still convinced the smaller meetings have some dark arts at work.
    I'm sorry but this statement is utter bollocks. I was in PP st the time and I know exactly what they stood to lose. Had she stood up PP would have paid out like the bookmaker they were. Happy to debate this with anyone because no one can tell me anything I don't know about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    If you're referring to the final flight at the festival, there's no way [in my opinion] Ruby came off deliberately. It would have been too dangerous. I reckon I've seen jockeys jump/fall off suspiciously but they usually do so out in the country when the pace is still easy and they tend to take them to the outside so that they're not falling into the path of another. I think they're also less likely to do it when the ground is on the fast side.

    Outside of Saturdays, festival meetings and big money races, usually only a fraction of any field is trying. There was a shocker of a race at Sandown yesterday in which I reckon I saw more non-triers in a big field than I have for a long time.

    As for the initial scenario, I'm not sure the analogy can apply but I would say multiply the prize money and you would often see a different result.
    I'd love you to start a thread pointing out nom jiggers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimChance View Post
    I'm sorry but this statement is utter bollocks. I was in PP st the time and I know exactly what they stood to lose. Had she stood up PP would have paid out like the bookmaker they were. Happy to debate this with anyone because no one can tell me anything I don't know about it.
    I agree it's bollocks, but at the time I watched Grand National and the festival that was it. Only since I got more understanding I realised it was bullocks. Press don't help things, publishing that certain bookmakers (or maybe all, can't remember) saved 75 million on that fall. The rational thing to do then as a casual is question the integrity of the sport.

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    Annie was the last leg of a four-fold that would have seen me thinking about retiring. No way did he bale out.
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    I thought you had retired, DO?
    Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......

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    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by an capall View Post
    That is a brilliant video. PP at their best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Phillips View Post
    I thought you had retired, DO?
    From punting, Colin.
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    Oops, sorry!
    Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......

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