Not looking good across the water

[Gearoid]

I can not thing of one reason to have a bet in the ring. All they do is trade each other. No one betting on course has any advantage.

[PRICEWISE2008]

I can not thing of one reason to have a bet in the ring. All they do is trade each other. No one betting on course has any advantage.

I haven't had a bet with a bookie in a long long time, why would I

[Cantoris]

It appears Oliver McKiernan's horses have been transferred from his Cavan Developments name to the Red Gap Partnership, made up of his family but not him. This includes Whatuthink, Follow THe Plan and Healys Bar.

[Sheikh]

It appears Oliver McKiernan's horses have been transferred from his Cavan Developments name to the Red Gap Partnership, made up of his family but not him. This includes Whatuthink, Follow THe Plan and Healys Bar.

Is he moving his assets out of reach...

[Cantoris]

Well all the Doran horses went to the Unfinished Business syndicate. Probably something similar.

[Guest_]

Plans for a €460m sporting and leisure investment, which include Ireland’s newest racecourse, were unveiled today in Nenagh in a development which is set to employ a total of 3,000 people during the three years of construction.The 800 acre development is set beside the village of Two-Mile-Borris and will be known as the Tipperary Venue. The project will include a racecourse, an all-weather and floodlit course, a 500 room hotel, a casino, golf course, greyhound track and a 15,000 seater entertainment venue.
The chief investor in the development is Dublin businessman Richard Quirke, a former Garda from Thurles who is best known in the gaming industry as owner of Dr Quirkeys’ Good Time Emporium in Dublin.
Speaking at Nenagh today, Quirke stated “we are hoping that 80% of our patronage will come from abroad and 20% will come from home.”
Work is expected to begin next Spring.

[Cantoris]

Is it the first of April already?

[Irish Stamp]

"Dr Quirkeys' Good Time Emporium" - is this a brothel of some description?

[del boy]

Ireland definately needs another hotel.

And the massive attendances at Dundalks AW meeting are bound to only encourage this development. Il be surprised if a sod is ever turned.

[Irish Stamp]

Thinking back have we not had this idea before in the recent past?

The last plans involving shutting down Thurles and building a course/hotel/leisure complex closer to Tipperary town?

[Guest_]

It is the same plan - but this is confirming work starts in the spring.

[Sheikh]

If Mr Quirke manages to get this up, running and profitable I will glady lead the revolution to place him in power as the one and only leader of this Country Il Quirkey ! World domination will follow shortly after that.

[Cantoris]

It is the same plan - but this is confirming work starts in the spring.

I wouldn't be so sure. Who is financing it? A 500 bed hotel? And I believe it's going to be 5 star. That's €10-15k a room in fit out, which is €5-7.5 million, before you even think about putting a brick down. 5 star hotels are struggling all over the country, who thinks they can make it work and at 500 rooms how will they ever get sufficient capacity to make it efficient?

I did read conflicting reports, one say they had financing in place and the other saying they were looking for invstors. I'd say this is similar to the lad who said he'd accept offers of more than €1 for his home. Needless to say, he wanted the publicity and refused €150k for it.

PS Thurles is an industry track with only one or two big days, and those are small. Will the new track be happy with that? Doubt it and no chance of getting any more fixtures.

[On The Bridle]

Looks like the IBA have launched a Fatwah against HRI today!! Seems like freedom of information requests haven't been dealt with - this could get really messy!!!

[Sheikh]

ITBA ? what's it about ?

[On The Bridle]

ITBA ? what's it about ?

Irish Bookmakers Association are getting their retaliation in first as HRI are lobbying the government to increase betting tax on bookmakers and/or trying to establish a mechanism for taxing the Irish betting routed off-shore. The IBA engaged KPMG to do some analysis on HRI spending the results of which do not look good at first glance. The IBA are also trying to exert pressure on HRI to race at Dundalk from January to March next year which the HRI seem set against. This has been brewing for some time and may rage on for a while yet!!!

[Grey]

There was a disgracefully partisan piece in yesterday's Irish Independent about a report commissioned by the Irish Bookmakers Association from KPMG on the activities of Horse Racing Ireland.

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-n...l-2412183.html

HRI was invited neither to respond nor contribute to the report. KPMG should be ashamed of its involvement in such a grubby exercise. The response from HRI is rather convincing:

http://www.irishracing.com/v5newsitem?prid=49061

[On The Bridle]

There was a disgracefully partisan piece in yesterday's Irish Independent about a report commissioned by the Irish Bookmakers Association from KPMG on the activities of Horse Racing Ireland.

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-n...l-2412183.html

HRI was invited neither to respond nor contribute to the report. KPMG should be ashamed of its involvement in such a grubby exercise. The response from HRI is rather convincing:

http://www.irishracing.com/v5newsitem?prid=49061

Agreed

[Sheikh]

Read about it. It's a really cheap and nasty ploy.

Give the bookies the boot. Tote only betting is the way forward and the way the best run racing jurisdictions thrive.

[On The Bridle]

Read about it. It's a really cheap and nasty ploy.

Give the bookies the boot. Tote only betting is the way forward and the way the best run racing jurisdictions thrive.

Who is Sharon Byrne head of IBA?? Any clues anyone - now Brian Kavanagh's salary is being kicked around the place - is there no low that the IBA will not stoop to!!