Farcical stuff!
Farcical stuff!
I'm bored of this. I'm going for a Twix.
Messy race, fair do's the winner.
Tartan certainly aint ran his race there, Curtain Call looks a ten furlong horse.
To be fair Tartan Bearer never quite looked like he was going to do it. If anything, I thought Casual Conquest looked the biggest threat and it's disappointing he couldn't go and win it when it all opened up for him. The winner had to go widest of all - maybe he found the fastest ground :P
The only conclusion is that the winner lost more ground than any of them and was quickening and staying and could be better than the messy race suggests.
And of course that Volta is a 'lary bugger!'
"And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.
And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."
Casual Conquest looked like he needs further than this. Leger?
I'm bored of this. I'm going for a Twix.
He travelled very strongly indeed ~ traded at 8/11 for good money even before the straight.Originally posted by Gareth Flynn@Jun 29 2008, 04:08 PM
To be fair Tartan Bearer never quite looked like he was going to do it.
handsome is as handsome does
I thought Moore was having to get busy with him uncomfortably early.
Watching the replay a few times, I think AV's backend went into the rails just before he started all that - anyone else see that? No doubt we shall get endless replays.
I think it's impossible to say that Tartan Bearer wouldn't have won if he he hadn't been put off like that - it's very difficult to keep going at *top* speed if you are thrown off line and balance like that , imo Ryan id d very well to keep him going forward so well.
Very hard luck on Curtain Call, he was going very well but yes I'm convinced too he is a 1.2m horse
Only just found out the result. Mixed feelings. I had highlighted FF as the one to take out of the Dante but didn't look closely at the race beforehand and couldn't even have told you FF was running. I'd probably have backed him EW or place-only as I'd backed him at Epsom (9/2 place only) after laying off my bet on New Approach. He was never going at any time at Epsom but was entitled to get reasonably close to TB on York form.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Tartan Bearer promoted to third, AV 4th
McCabe moved off the rail to let Allessandro up, and looked round to make sure he was there, team tactics it's seems, shortly after that McCabe makes no effort on Hindu Kush.
Never noticed it watching the race but well done Chapman for highlighting it.
McCabe didn't move off the rail though? At least it wasn't visible from the angle that Chapman had. He stayed off the rail and looked around - Chapman was asking what he would have done if Tartan Bearer had been where Allesandro Volta was, as if you can prove team tactics through hypotheticals.
Frozen Fire has given me my biggest pay day in some time. He was interferred with as well and looked the best horse on the day to me.
Tartan Bearer looked slow, took an age to get past the others and not up to Chris's gallop reports.
Weither any of them are up to taking on the older animals is open to question.
Chuffed to bits for yer GalOriginally posted by Galileo@Jun 29 2008, 03:34 PM
Frozen Fire has given me my biggest pay day in some time.
Spend it wisely mate
Well done to Frozen Fire backers, he's clearly a talented horse, as I thought on his debut when I stuck a large P on him. I've got to find some positive to take from the race!! I'd maintain he's not an easy or straightforward ride and think he will test the skills of O'Brien to the limit as he walks on a tightrope with regards his temperament, but as he's shown with George Washington, he couldn't be in better hands.
The best horse won at the end of the day.
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I think FF was the best today
I was on him, it was a silly price.
Also think New Approach would have won today.
Alessandro Volta
team tactics employed on him in the same way they did in the Queen Anne, bordering in the ilegal.
If you've got 5 horses int he same ownership and trainership, it's stupid not to expect team tactics, however heavily they are disguised. The other trainers shoudl have told their jocks to keep well away - easier said than done I know!! esp if a horse veers right across the track
Has anyone any opinion on whether AV did bump the rail as he started to come back to them?
Yes. I have an opinion on that one.
"And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.
And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."
Take your hat off to Jamie Spencer on French Riviera, you won't see another well judged ride like that in a while LOL
You slag him off when he holds them up and slag him off when he makes the running. Poor guy can't win.
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