20th November 2007, 8:24 PM
#11
Super Moderator
Originally posted by Headstrong@Nov 20 2007, 06:30 PM
I'd be delighted for the thoroughbred population if DJ never won another race EVER
I've lost count of the good youngsters he's had through his hands who have been ruined imo by being pushed too far too soon, to satisfy his ambitions and punting
You sure?
I'm pretty certain ALL of Johnson's good youngsters have gone to Pipe and he's not the only owner in the yard who's had good youngsters go up the swanny. I'm quite sure DJ cares a great deal about his horses
Hurricane Fly - whatever he runs in he wins
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21st November 2007, 12:38 AM
#12
Well as I keep saying, we are all entitled to our opinions, and that's mine - which comes of several years of watching DJ's horses and their campaigns - and from nothing other than that. So it's in its way a purley 'objective' opinion. He may, like a few other people, have learned a few things over the years - I hope so.
Can we please stop labelling as 'crap' any opinion we don't happen to agree with?
21st November 2007, 1:57 AM
#13
Super Moderator
DJ has been blighted by some shocking luck over the years as I'm sure you are aware HS, promising young horses such as Cyfor Malta (injured), Gris D'Estruval (fatally injured at Aintree), Tamarindo (promising horse), Eudipe (fatally injured at Aintree), Man On The Hill, Marcel.
Are they a victim of DJ's ownership or of Pipe's training methods?
Johnson moves horses to different trainers - he now has them with the likes of Brendan Powell, Emma Lavelle, Paul Nicholls, Hen Knight, Ferdy Murphy, Peter Monteith and has recently retired a couple of out of form staying chasers who I'm sure forum members have backed for Cheltenham races ante-post before now. That's not the sort of thing someone obsessed with winning or who doesn't care about his horses would do.
Hurricane Fly - whatever he runs in he wins
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21st November 2007, 9:42 PM
#14
Senior Member
Originally posted by Irish Stamp@Nov 21 2007, 01:57 AM
DJ has been blighted by some shocking luck over the years as I'm sure you are aware HS, promising young horses such as Cyfor Malta (injured), Gris D'Estruval (fatally injured at Aintree), Tamarindo (promising horse), Eudipe (fatally injured at Aintree), Man On The Hill, Marcel.
Are they a victim of DJ's ownership or of Pipe's training methods?
Johnson moves horses to different trainers - he now has them with the likes of Brendan Powell, Emma Lavelle, Paul Nicholls, Hen Knight, Ferdy Murphy, Peter Monteith and has recently retired a couple of out of form staying chasers who I'm sure forum members have backed for Cheltenham races ante-post before now. That's not the sort of thing someone obsessed with winning or who doesn't care about his horses would do.
He's also been happy to give horses away cheaply on the understanding that they be given a good retirement home.
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