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    Kauto Star (2) , Exotic Dancer (10) , Katchit (12) , My Way De Solzen (12) , Voy Por Ustedes (12) , Twist Magic (14) , Denman (20) , Monets Garden (20) , Wichita Lineman (20) , Black Jack Ketchum (25) , Blazing Bailey (25) , Blythe Knight (25) , Detroit City (25) , Gaspara (25) , Inglis Drever (25) , New Little Bric (25) , Taranis (25) , Well Chief (25) , Afsoun (33) , Another Promise (33) - Others 33 or more

    Monets Garden and Katchit take my eye.

    MG is likely to win a good few decent races over 2m4f.

    Katchit will take a lot of racing, and the place points often clinch the title.
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    Blythe Knight doesn't seem to shirk his races either. My best guess is that you want a 2 miler? Quinny seems to be talking up every race as a target and the division looks weaker than it has for many years. The Irish will stay over the water I suspect until March, which means that if he takes in the targets that the trainers talking, he could inherit a few soft points?

    Although I've thrown away last weeks copy, I seem to think he was ear marking the Fighting Fifth, Bula and Xmas Hurdle
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    Monets at 20's stands out to me
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    MWDS Surely?

    2, 2.5 and 3 miler.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Katchit is a superb price at 12/1; unfortunately the 12/1 is somewhat mythical since I don't know anyone who can get a bet with Skybet! :laughing:

    That said, even 10/1 is a big price and I have had a bit of an interest.
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    What about Dickie Johnson for the Jockeys SL- looked a big price to me?

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    What price is Arcalis?
    Welsh and Proud.

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    He did at this time last year TDK, yes! You're not going to let that one drop are you?! :laughing:
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    Hurts me to say it but I'm with Dom here, Katchit all the way. Going to be targetted at 3 Merit Races and win the Betfair Million.

    I would be going in on him;

    my guess is can they Katch him, no they can't :+)

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    I'm telling you now, Katchit will win the Champion hurdle!
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    Not a prayer in the world Shadow...your support for him is encouraging

    He's this years Arcalis/Darkness etc etc etc....you're already talking with certainly before the others have shown their hand. How unfortunate.

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    Oh yes, Darkness. That was an atrocious call wasn't it? I marked him up before he'd jumped a fence in public as a potential RSA horse, when he was 33/1, and suggested he might not be a bad each way bet. Remind me, Bobbyjo - wasn't he 3rd in the race? Didn't he go off as favourite? Well blow me, I called that one wrong didn't I!

    We all get things wrong - I was wrong about Arcalis and others besides. Let me think, you've never been wrong about a horse on here, have you?!
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    Bobbyjo is too modest to say it, but no, he hasn't.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Agree Katchit looks a good bet for this. Ruby nailed on again as he was last year, but Choc doesn't look the worst 7-1 poke ever for the jockeys.

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    Never

    The initial Darkness call was a good one but we all remember the consistent support throughout the winter when he was clearly not going to win the race. Yes, smart arse to say it in hindsight, but there was enough people calling it. Your revisionism on the era is impressive, it is flattering to you, but there was more to it and you know it!!

    I just don't understand how anyone can say Katchit WILL win the Champion Hurdle when last year's winner could be anything and a lot of the other second season horses haven't even shown their hand yet. For example, the clash of Bobs Pride and Ebaziyan tomorrow which I have flagged on another thread. There is nothing to suggest that Katchit will come any closer than the grossly overhyped Detroit City. The good news, however, is that Katchit is probably unlikely to meet any of the main contenders before Cheltenham bar perhaps one or two so if he can overcome those challenges he will be equally layable on the day as the great DC.

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    Sublimity , painful as it was for me, was a good call.

    However, it was a guess. He had no actual form to suggest he could win the race.

    As I said when supporting Detroit City, it doesn't matter if they haven't shown the form to win The Champion Hurdle prior to winning it , as very few winners of The Champion Hurdle have actually shown that level until the day they win it.
    I could be the judge!

    I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

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    However, it was a guess
    Isn't every bet a guess, of sorts. Sublimity had been unlucky not to win or come very close to winning the Supreme the year before when he got bumped. Only those who backed him on the day [at big prices] really noticed, however.

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    Uncle Goober - hate to be pedantic, but relative to your statement that "as very few winners of The Champion Hurdle have actually shown that level until the day they win it"..I would contend that only those in bold conform to that statement in the last ten years.

    1998 Istabraq
    1999 Istabraq
    2000 Istabraq
    2001 Istabraq
    2002 Hors La Loi III
    2003 Rooster Booster
    2004 Hardy Eustace
    2005 Hardy Eustace
    2006 Brave Inca
    2007 Sublimity
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    I would think Hors La Loi III supreme would have him close enough to winning his champion hurdle if not a clear winner.
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