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    The Third Horse?!... he’s not called Harry Lime...

    The Third Horse?!... he’s not called Harry Lime and doesn’t carry half the condition of an Orson Welles!... plinky, plink, de plinky plonk... plinky, plink, de plinky plonk... plinky plink de plinky...
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    Meanwhile the peerless Harry Spiers went down a...

    Meanwhile the peerless Harry Spiers went down a short-head yesterday, back at 9 furlongs in his Arc build up ;) Followers of Harry can view his advance here:...
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    Hard luck at Roscommon edgt. Well done to the...

    Hard luck at Roscommon edgt.

    Well done to the Dark Lane team.

    Why has Cross Of Honour been off Michael? What are the plans for him now?

    And good luck to all with other upcoming entries.
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    For the love of sanity. Of course other things...

    For the love of sanity. Of course other things come into it. This originated from the simple comment that three-year-olds are up against it in the Eclipse. That other things come into does not...
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    ...a good many. I've been going racing since the...

    ...a good many. I've been going racing since the mid-Sixties. Since the likes of Sea-Bird and Arkle.
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    I would refute this. I see no evidence to refute...

    I would refute this. I see no evidence to refute the evidence of the results.
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    That may be true if things remained the same. But...

    That may be true if things remained the same. But what I'm suggesting is precisely revision to to programme where 3yos are given ample opportunity to compete at their own level.
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    It's not that it's different in the US, the...

    It's not that it's different in the US, the difference narrows the later it gets in the year (on an international basis) as the 3yos are deemed more physically able to compete with the older horses.
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    I’m actually against WFA concessions for...

    I’m actually against WFA concessions for so-called championship races, as I believe the best absolute horse should be allowed to win (and this would encourage horses to be kept in training as older...
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    I was talking historically. But in this instance...

    I was talking historically. But in this instance those data points, plus the published rationale for WFA in connection with the physical development of the 3yo, plus Newton’s Law of General...
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    Possibly not... but its not attractive on an open...

    Possibly not... but its not attractive on an open forum.
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    That’s rich... For someone who’s a bit bored with...

    That’s rich... For someone who’s a bit bored with it you do an awful lot of flapping and then run for cover claiming it’s beneath you after you have raised it... man up about it at least! You are the...
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    I’m suggesting that the advantage changes between...

    I’m suggesting that the advantage changes between now and the end of the season enough to make a clear difference, but would resist using words like “massive” to pull the discussion out of context....
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    25 years of strikingly different relative results...

    25 years of strikingly different relative results in two races such as the Eclipse and the Arc, should be enough to alert anyone that something basic is going on. This together with the rationale for...
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    :) ...probably not much in it... I'd fancy Harry...

    :) ...probably not much in it... I'd fancy Harry Spiers to get withing 11 lengths of the German winner.;)
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    I simply said this to counter claims that he has...

    I simply said this to counter claims that he has a live chance in the Arc. Is this no longer allowed on a racing forum? If it doesn't take much to say it, why then are others saying otherwise?
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    Well we'll see... Like I say I believe the winner...

    Well we'll see... Like I say I believe the winner is decent but the field of this year's German Derby very poor. This does not mean that I underrate German form in general. I stand by my opinion that...
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    ...Indeed so.

    ...Indeed so.
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    A 3yo is at a big physical disadvantage at this...

    A 3yo is at a big physical disadvantage at this stage of the season against older horses. Those 3yos that do succeed in races such as the Eclipse are exceptional. In the past 25 years just six 3yos...
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    They are talking about lowering True Story’s...

    They are talking about lowering True Story’s sites to the Rose of Lancaster at Haydock but he’s also entered for the Juddmonte International. He does appear to be frustrating, but bear in mind that...
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    Sea The Moon did look amazing winning from the...

    Sea The Moon did look amazing winning from the front as he did. His rating has jumped up from around 105 to about 120, but the ease of victory must surely be viewed with suspicion. The colt has a...
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    He is a contrarian and while it is good to...

    He is a contrarian and while it is good to question received wisdom he has made a career of it. This one is difficult to say more on than we have in the absence of further detail, but there’s a...
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    You might want to question his stamina at 20...

    You might want to question his stamina at 20 furlongs, although he still managed to win a Gold Cup, but from that to say he is interesting in a Group 1 which requires pace (which he doesn’t appear to...
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    Thanks guys it was good to see it myself. We’ve...

    Thanks guys it was good to see it myself. We’ve raced a few others there (or rather my racing partner has [who has kept our old racing colours] as he lives there now for most of the time to be with...
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    :lol:...as it happens, not.

    :lol:...as it happens, not.
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