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I see one of the guys in the Weekender is dissing the Newbury form.

These guys just don't get it.

We're talking the most important handicap outside of the National, contested only by horses...

My take on the race:

This 'memory' appeared on my FB page this morning, from two years ago. I'd titled it, "If Carlsberg did Hennessys"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iV8dg1qnBQ

I added:

It's still my...

Just checked the Irish Turf Club site.

TR has indeed been raised to 156. This would have been arrived at in consultation with the UK handicapper.

Cheers, wilsonl.

If Whisper is up to 169 and Total Recall has beaten him in receipt of 14lbs (off 147) there is no way TR will go up less than 12lbs, more likely 13lbs. So he'll almost certainly...

I've just watched the race again.

First of all, it was a terrific race.

However, I do think both Total Recall and Whisper had very, very hard races. It remains to be seen how they recover. I...

Wouldn't that be brilliant?!

Coneygree is as top class as Denman. Whether he is genuinely in decline or has a problem or is being brought along more steadily for something later on only time will tell.

Bear in mind that...

I'm not keen on relying to heavily on form that's a year old. If they're both stuffed out of sight, the chances are that any similarity in relative form is no more than a coincidence. Regal Encore is...

I'll post some figures later in the week but I reckon Whisper works out a good 7lbs better than Native River.

Yes, but those races weren't soft-ground Hennessys. I was anticipating a ride from just the wrong side of midfield. I'll watch it again a few times over the next few days to see if there's anything...

Just came on to say something similar. The jockey must have thought he was riding the Derby winner, never mind a Gold Cup winner. I just could not fathom his starting position and early race tactics....

If my figures are right, SFP might just run away with this, despite its being such a hot race. I've also taken 100/1 ew for the Gold Cup in case I'm right.

No, marble, you get the terms you took at the time of striking the bet.

Sshhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ffs!!

I'm very much in the same camp, TS.

When he ran at Cheltenham I wrote:


It was when I heard the trainer's remarks pre-race - not dissimilar to Segal's - that I feared he was there to run well...

It seems to be Culloty's MO to make them look ultra-iffy ahead of landing quiet gambles and LS does have bits and bobs of very smart form.

Cheers, GH. I was sure it was next week they came out with penalties accruing after this coming Sunday. Obviously mixed up somewhere along the line.

I don't think so. I don't think the weights are out yet so he'll be re-handicapped if deemed necessary. I think.

2016 - my earliest document is the five day stage: 28 left, going down to 134 Another Hero 9-8 (Smad Place 166, 11-12); 20 declared, Smad Place top weight 11-12, bottom weight Upswing (137) 10-0...

In your dreams, marble, in your dreams :lol:

Vyta Du Roc will be very unlucky not to make the cut. He's off 140 while 138 and 139 have made the cut in recent years.

I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a cut, in fact. I'm not sure there...

Smad Place up 6lbs. I wish punting was as easy as this handicapping malarkey...

I suppose I'm really saying I think he could run as well as we could hope and still find some future superstar laughing at him.

Duly fixed. 14/1.