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A handicap would usually be 10st to 12st. A limited handicap is something like 11st to 12st.*

*All figures approximate.

Get that but I wouldn't be a fan of making that assumption. To me it's just as likely that he emptied up the hill.

Going up 6lbs for falling seems a bit harsh.

Surely he has to have top weight regardless of what else runs.

Congratulations G G very well done. :D

Yes that would be precisely the cause of such a discrepancy. 9/1 worth an each way dabble tomorrow?

I use it as a rough indicator that a horse might have more in hand than the official handicapper has allowed for. Rightly or wrongly - I know there are others on here who would disagree with that...

Yep that's his actual rating.

The 72 is the rating that the Racing Post time man Top speed has given him.

117 is the rating that the official handicapper has given him.

127 is the top rating that the Racing Post handicapper has given him.

The two are nominally on the same scale but RP ratings tend...

clivex would be turning in his Ford Mondeo.

I have been abroad on holiday for a coupe of weeks. What happened here??

I'd fancy Double Ross to win a big one this year off this sort of mark.

well said - you're half right. :lol:

I would disagree with this. Firstly, whilst injury/lack of fitness might be expected to retard his performance - the impression given on the day was that they had not. To hang on to preconceived...

Precisely my point. Otherwise you'd just be throwing random numbers onto a page.

Grasshopper - I believe that this is the official handicappers chatter.

EC1 - hes rated Zarkandar 4lbs below his best, based on an assumption that Grandouet has replicated his previous best...

Rory thinks that rating off any horse, in any race, is illogical. And frightening.

Did he appear to not run his race? Or Zarkandar not run his - which if you believe that Grandouet didn't then it's a given that he didn't?

Given that all handicapping involves using a yardstick of some sort, you appear to be suggesting that handicapping or just applying ratings is inherently wrong. From a professional involved in the...

Seems reasonable enough to me. The alternatives would be that he ran a better race but still got beaten, which would mean increasing the OHR of Dunaden and Brown Panther or that he didn't run as well...