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    The Mekhong your drinking must be strong Tanlic
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    What about Black Corton? I didn't see the race myself, but reading the text commentary he seemed to win easily by 8 lengths, conceding weight all round.

    Was already rated 150 before today so likely to go up again. Highest rated recent winner of the festival RSA was 156. Proper contender?

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    I got the impression from Nicholls interview that they would be putting him away until the spring, as deep-ground is against him.
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    Novice Chasers 2017/2018

    Black Corton looked a fortunate winner today as the Tizzard horse seemed to be going slightly the better. It’s a long way home from the second last though so you never know. BC did clout the last which wouldn’t have helped if it had been close. I’d be looking elsewhere for the RSA


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    Profile reminds me a little of Frodon this time last year.
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    I backed BC but was lucky I thought Cooper came of the bend in a good rhythm but yards before the fence he broke that rhythm which contributed to the fall...........This is a month apart from the first couple of days he will want to forget.
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    Frodon almost-certainly better handicapped at this stage, archie.

    BC going to find it incredibly tough now, I suspect.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Frodon almost-certainly better handicapped at this stage, archie.
    He was on 146 and, having won at Wincanton as the only finisher, contested the Mackeson (PP/BetVictor) off 151.
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    Black Corton rated 150 today and giving weight away all round......surely certain to get mugged by more than a pound - even with the Potts horse hitting the deck.
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    I may have jumped the gun with my above question/description of Black Corton - having not seen the race - as the Tizzrd horse apparently had every chance.

    However, he's run 4 times now on good ground and keeps winning. Clearly stays 3 miles and needs the better ground. Agree Grassy that the obvious thing is to put him away until the Spring and his rating will likely me mid 150's anyway.

    As I said above, recent RSA chase winners have been similar mark (Might Bite 156 last year) - though appreciate with Novice Chasers, ratings not as reliable at this point.
    Initially I was tempted to back him at 25/1 - but Bet Victor only firm with any price up - which made me pause. Why would no other Bookies even have a price up, especially after winning on the C&D today?
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    Novices running-up sequences in the summer/autumn are ripe for taking-on at any other time of the season, imo.

    I would oppose Black Corton in just about every conceivable circumstance from here on in. He is probably a stone the wrong side of handy for winning two-bit races whilst having a fitness advantage.
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    Heard at the racecourse yesterday that Black Corton will be aimed at a chase at Exeter in a couple of weeks before being put away until next Summer. Imagine that will be ground dependent though.

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    Fagan looks like he needs further. Possibly a lot further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivantheterrible View Post
    Fagan looks like he needs further. Possibly a lot further.

    Not sure if they are trying to get him a handicap mark or aim him at the 4 miler .I wouldn't be surprised if they know he has a problem.

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    Petite Mouchoir injured and won't be seen again until Irish Arkle.

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    They have to aim FO at the Arkle now, there's gonna be frig all to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    Petite Mouchoir injured and won't be seen again until Irish Arkle.
    Bummer
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    They have to aim FO at the Arkle now, there's gonna be frig all to beat.
    Doesnt look vintage at all.

    This is the premier race of the festival that has suffered the most with the additional races over the last few years.

    i like Sutton place a lot but he is not without his own worries and might need an extra 4f at least
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Agree. I would nix the JLT, maybe add in a veterans chase as they seems popular.

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    Veterans chase is a good shout.

    Beef or Salmon deserves it
    Last edited by granger; 29th October 2017 at 2:47 PM.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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