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    8 runners and the ground starting to make BDM look an e/w bet at the right price

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    Coole Cody worth an each-way interest at 25/1 in the Stayers Hurdle. Race is wide-open, and those at the front-end of the market, are vulnerable to an improver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Diakali is a big price at 50/1 (Victor) in the Aintree Hurdle.

    Was only beaten 1/4L by TNO in this a few years back, and is lightly-raced after a series of setbacks since. He will be fresh going into this, against horses who - in the main - had hard enough races at Cheltenham, and where none of the principles is in what you'd call stellar-form. Diakali was a decent horse at one time, and if he does retain his ability, Moore is just the type of trainer to extract it from him. I think he is a great each-way price.

    Edit: Note that Diakali also holds the Alder Hay handicap hurdle entry, though if he's ready to win that off top-weight, he is probably also ready to run for a hundred-grand more in the Grade 1.
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    I've took a small bet on Cyrus Darius just for interest obviously stacks to find with the front lot but looked better than ever when winning the Morebattle again. Will relish the trip and softening conditons and won a grade 2 novices at the track by 10 lengths. Agree regards grass's thoughts about some of them having tough races/seasons and Cyrus comes here fairly fresh. Although he's 9 he's had 7 hurdle starts and won 5 of them so at the prices he gives me a bit of an interest in a dull race.
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    GoingStick reading lower at Aintree now than for Becher day in December when official going was heavy. Considerably lower on Mildmay (4.0 compared to 5.0). National 3.7 (was 4.0 for Becher)

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    Quote Originally Posted by simmo View Post
    Which bit of Politologue's form is it that you think makes him a better horse at 2m4f. His RPR's at both distances are as follows:

    2m: 160, 167, 167, 167, 167, 161
    2m4f: 149, 153, 158, 148, 154

    Those ratings are crap..


    The handicapper reckons Altior ran to a 175 and Politilogue ran to a 161 but was beaten 23 lengths..if 1 lb is 1 length and you agree with Altior's rating then Polit ran to what?

    I do believe he has improved but it's got very little to do with the trip and he'll prove that this week if he runs the horse


    Nicholls will run him and then he's tell us 2m4f is his best trip
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
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    GoingStick reading lower at Aintree now than for Becher day in December when official going was heavy. Considerably lower on Mildmay (4.0 compared to 5.0). National 3.7 (was 4.0 for Becher)
    Where's he had those readings from DG ? That are not the ones that i saw this morning. It was 5.0 on the national course but I did smell a rat when I'd read 6.2 on the Mildmay as there was literally no chance of that with the rain they've had.


    Edit- ok found them see they've all been updated. That is absolutely desperate ground. Oh dear.
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    Min runs in the melling

    Course may suit him more than the trip
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Min runs in the melling

    Course may suit him more than the trip

    No trip concerns for me, PJ. Good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    No trip concerns for me, PJ. Good thing.

    I have none either Nick - my point is I think he will get the trip perfectly and people will clamor for him to step up to 3 miles.

    I think Aintree will see him more to his best than Cheltenham ever will
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I think Min's a good thing too. They had to step him up as he can't beat Altior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
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    GoingStick reading lower at Aintree now than for Becher day in December when official going was heavy. Considerably lower on Mildmay (4.0 compared to 5.0). National 3.7 (was 4.0 for Becher)
    I think Mick Fitz was going on about discrepancies in the readings at a recent televised meeting. Haydock, maybe?

    Anyway, we'll know more about the going after tomorrow's racing.
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    Min often takes a strong hold, I'd be surprised if he is as good over 2m4f as he is over 2m. At the prices I would strongly favour Balko Des Flos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    I think Min's a good thing too. They had to step him up as he can't beat Altior.
    Plus they have Great Field for Punch.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Great Field is going to shake-up the division.
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    I think Apples Shakira is nailed on -I'm expecting an absolute demolition job.

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    Great Field won't be running at Punchestown he's a sub in case anything goes wrong with Douvan Mullins has no intentions of running both and you can take that to the bank
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    Can't have Brain Power after that really tough race in the Arkle.
    Tizzard may well have found a race Finians Oscar can win.

    Apart from Davy Russell there is no one riding better than Daryl Jacob this season
    and I reckon We Have A Dream has more to fear from Mayala than Apple Shakira
    Too many ifs and buts to be betting in this race.

    Not even Daryl Jacob could get Bristol De Mai to win again this season. He's gone and wont be winning anything
    Might Bite wouldn't be here if Nicky didn't think he'd fully recovered and considering he's got 7lbs in hand of these 5/6 looks a steal

    I reckon there's still life left in the old legs and with the ground in his favour The New One can win this.
    More of a sporting bet than a serious one but he does like it round Aintree.

    Got my fingers crossed for Barrakilla EW this has been his target all year

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