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Thread: Misuse of the whip at Cheltenham

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    Quote Originally Posted by an capall View Post
    Say if the JC retained ~3% of the jockey's winning cut in a general pool. If a jockey and horse are disqualified for over use of the whip this pool is used to compensate the owner (not the trainer et al). Unused monies are refunded at end of season.

    I think the peer pressure aspect of this would be far more influential than a 4 day ban. Imagine going back into the weigh room and explaining to Ruby why you cost him money!
    When prize money is so poor in the majority of races in the UK anyway, you think jockeys would be willing to give up 3% of their winnings to compensate owners? Jockeys need to be more aware of what is going on around them. When well clear too many jockeys keep hitting the horses when they are in more danger of getting a speeding ticket than being caught. If Johnson had looked round he would have seen MB wasn't gaining and he had plenty in hand.

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    Speaking of the poor impression given to the wider public by use of the whip, is it time to retire the guy who follows behind the horses brandishing a whiplash as they approach the starter? Is he really needed?

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    Labaik would say yes.
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    Indeed, during his retirement the chap could console himself that his life has not been completely useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-G View Post
    When prize money is so poor in the majority of races in the UK anyway, you think jockeys would be willing to give up 3% of their winnings to compensate owners? Jockeys need to be more aware of what is going on around them. When well clear too many jockeys keep hitting the horses when they are in more danger of getting a speeding ticket than being caught. If Johnson had looked round he would have seen MB wasn't gaining and he had plenty in hand.
    On that holding ground you have to keep a horse going or he will stop cold and not get going again.
    Stewards need to take this into account when tallying up whip use/abuse.

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    Pretty basic.

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    If I was going to critisize Kevin Blake it would be to say why hit the ball back.

    It's like tennis if the opponent doesn't hit the ball back there is no game.

    Racing Post running an article because Paul Jacob decides to run off at the mouth speaks volumes about them.

    People who care about racing and know horses AND who have actually held a whip know it is not a lethal weapon.
    and those who wish to treat it as such are best ignored
    Formely Fist of Fury

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    Dave Yates summed it up nicely on Twitter.

    The whip does not inflict pain, and is merely there to "adrenalise and encourage". Yates has also suggested the BHA have a "Whip demo" stand at racetracks, so that punters can get an education on its real effect.

    The Post running this owner's opinion as a story is pathetic, and a gross dis-service to Racing.
    Last edited by Grasshopper; 28th March 2018 at 9:39 AM.
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    I'd prefer it if a whip demo were carried it on ITV4, with Luke Harvey smacking Chapman's ars, tbh. Just so that the public were assured that "the whip does not inflict pain".

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    Might increase viewing figures as well, Len.
    Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......

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    Surely better to use something that actually inflicts pain on Chapman and use a whip on someone else


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