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    Hayley the-profit-Turner

    Surprised this has taken so long.

    I wondered when she was talking about her bets openly on TV if she still held a licence. I presumed she didn't or she'd have been much more devious about it.

    No doubt ITV will ensure she comes out of this smelling of roses, a victim of some sort...


    https://www.racingpost.com/news/news...-jockey/311201
    Last edited by Desert Orchid; 7th December 2017 at 1:05 PM.
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    This is the kind of non-story that the RP specialises in.

    A complete shi*t-box of a paper.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    I don't think it's a non-story as such, GH.

    Had it been any other jockey found to have placed bets while holding a licence it would have been as big a deal as doping.
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    She doesn't even ride any more, I thought?
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    That's the point. She was betting while she still held the licence and was riding in exhibition events in the lead-up to her comeback.

    One the one side, there's utter naivety in what she did which I find entirely forgivable.

    On the other, she was betting based on her inside knowledge of what was going on in certain stables. She had 160-odd bets in quite a short time span. That seems quite a lot to me.

    At its most innocent, it's immeasurable stupidity.

    At its most sinister, it's insider dealing.

    The gap in between is huge and the truth of the matter lies somewhere in there.

    She'll probably get a slap on the wrist.
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    I had no idea she made a comeback.
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    Waste of time.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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    If the details of the story are correct, and she had no other betting account, then it's all very small beer.

    I'd be more worried about certain other recently retired jockeys who seem to be remarkably well versed in the ways of betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    That's the point. She was betting while she still held the licence and was riding in exhibition events in the lead-up to her comeback.

    One the one side, there's utter naivety in what she did which I find entirely forgivable.

    On the other, she was betting based on her inside knowledge of what was going on in certain stables. She had 160-odd bets in quite a short time span. That seems quite a lot to me.

    At its most innocent, it's immeasurable stupidity.

    At its most sinister, it's insider dealing.

    The gap in between is huge and the truth of the matter lies somewhere in there.

    She'll probably get a slap on the wrist.

    Based on this you don't really understand what insider dealing is.

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    Yeah, very good.
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    I'm being serious -suggest an appropriate punishment for the offence.

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    I actually don't see the problem, or the difference between her placing the bets or a stable staff member who - were she indeed privy to information, and her profit would suggest she was - would have just the same info.

    If she were riding in the race then that's very different but she wasn't.
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    Are we to believe that no flat jockey-never mind jumps jockey has a bet at the festival or Grand National.

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    Tbh a bit of common sense should prevail in situations like this (although it never seems to) having a cheeky tenna on here and there on races she's not even involved with jesus wept ! Hardly the next Graham Bradley. What an utter, utter waste of time and money. How many hearings and all that crap will take place over this at what cost to a sport "struggling for money" .

    Complete Joke imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    I'm being serious
    Yeah? You're seriously trying to state I don't know what insider dealing is?
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    Regardless of what I or anyone else thinks of jockeys having a tenner on here or there, it's banned. No grey areas. End of.
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    Can you give me one example of insider dealing from the 160 bets and suggest an appropriate punishment.The rule is a nonsense and out of touch with modern realities when you have Henderson making sensitive announcements on the uni bet website and every half decent jockey having a newspaper column.

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    Maybe she should go on tour with Joey Barton during her suspension.
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    My favourite has to be Henrietta Knight admitting post race on live TV interview that she didn't mind losing the King George (Best Mate) to Florida Pearl, because she'd backed the winner
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    John Magnier had £10000 on Secreto to beat El Gran Señor in the Derby at 16/1.

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