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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Handful View Post
    Ordinary World was running a huge race on Saturday and was going to be a comfortable 2nd to Min before his shuddering mistake at the last brought him to complete standstill.
    He finished 4th in the end, but prior to Yesterday He's had 7 other starts over fences (All graded races including 4 Grade 1's) and He has never been out of the first 3.
    Assuming he's none the worse after yesterday, 50/1 E/W NRNB for the QMCC is a huge price. Race could still cut up to less than 8 runners and could see him sneaking into 3rd anyway. 50/1 a cracking E/W value bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    From Timeform:
    So lump on Min then

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    On AP. And that stat means I'll be topping up on the day.

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    I'm so heavily invested in Altior in multiples I have to back Min in the race as minor cover.

    As for that timeform stat, I'd say Altior had a pretty easy race and is unlikely to bounce. in addition Henderson says he barely missed any work, and the final point I'd make is that the exception was also a Henderson chaser. I'd be more than inclined to ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Haven't heard a peep since Frankie Tight-Lips gave a moderately upbeat bulletin a month-ago.....along the lines of he's overcome his setback, and might make Cheltenham.

    Not sure it makes much difference if he does make it. Altior is going to be hard beaten in the QMCC.
    Is Tanlic still saying Altior is overrated and has no collateral form with anything of any use?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    This is not in reply to what you’ve just said Granger but I heard a suggestion that Politologue had been given time off after a busy end to 2017 and they were only just building him up again.

    Can’t for the life of me remember where that came from or if it has any credence.


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    A lot of Ditcheat horses are given a quiet spell during January whilst they have their annual innoculations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear View Post
    This is not in reply to what you’ve just said Granger but I heard a suggestion that Politologue had been given time off after a busy end to 2017 and they were only just building him up again.

    Can’t for the life of me remember where that came from or if it has any credence.


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    Pretty sure Politilogue won't reverse placing any time soon in any event
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    The Road To The 2018 Champion Chase

    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Pretty sure Politilogue won't reverse placing any time soon in any event
    Yeah, I’m not suggesting that might happen but it might be worth considering when trying to weigh up Min v Altior.

    For me Min has produced a performance at true championship pace last week whereas Altior has simply had a superior turn of foot than his rival after a more sedate pace.

    It’s hard to knock Altior but you’ve got to believe they’re beatable unless all evidence points to the contrary.


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    Douvan given an entry at Gowran on Saturday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    Douvan given an entry at Gowran on Saturday.
    2m4 - Has a Ryanair entry - owner already has one for the CC. Could they?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear View Post
    2m4 - Has a Ryanair entry - owner already has one for the CC. Could they?


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    7/1 nrnb. wins well on sat and goes for that race he goes off much shorter.

    obviously the most likely scenario is a void bet but worth the investment.

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    I think so. None of the three protagonists declared for that race are running over their usual trip. If they all stand their ground it’ll be interesting.


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    Douvan a million to run in Gowran, imo.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    All the 7/1 NRNB for the Ryanair been gobbled up. Most places 4/1 now but just got on with Coral at 6/1. I agree it looks a risk feee investment. If he lines he'll be a lot shorter.

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    shortened for the queen mum too

    as an aside mullins has some other weird entries for the weekend. vvm who was rumoured to be retiring has an entry at navan, also abbyssial & bellshill who've not been sighted for ages.

    he's probably pissing himself with laughter while he makes them

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    There's no way Mullins is going to all this trouble for the Ryanair.

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    Even on the other side of the world Douvan been given an entry has raised gasps.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    There's no way Mullins is going to all this trouble for the Ryanair.
    High class chaser, Interrupted campaign. See Vautour.


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    Start of the season RR was quoted as saying where Douvan goes will depend on Min, which raised a few eyebrows. Min looked pretty good LTO so will go QMCC and therefore I wouldn't be surprised to see Douvan in the Ryanair if he does make the festival, plus it means avoiding Altior, who if Douvan is to meet may be better off waiting until he's had a run or two first.
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