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    If he fails then that is where he fails imo

    Altior was head and shoulders above everything that day and something had to finish 2nd..some decent horses behind but nothing to write home about got into it

    Nobody knows better than Nicky what it takes to win a Supreme and he know like Sprinter he just wasn't mature enough so they rode him accordingly.

    The proof is in the pudding and I think it's far to say Buveur has already proved my point.
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    Your turn to talk sh*ite, pal.

    Min not only beat Buveur D'Air home in that Supreme, but he also finished well ahead of Petit Mouchoir (dual G1 hurdles winner in Ireland the next season), Supasundae (Festival winner over hurdles in the next season) and North Hill Harvey (went on to win Greatwood Hurdle in the next season).

    Everything suggests it was a knock-out running of the Supreme.....something you would realise, if you looked past the end of your nose, and the Henderson runners.

    FWIW, Timeform rate that Supreme bettered only by the 2011 running, where Spirit Son, Sprinter Sacre and Cue Card filled the places behind Al Ferof.
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    The 2016 Supreme was better overall. Nothing behind Cue Card in 2011 did anything (apart from the Mullins beast I backed that day) after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Your turn to talk sh*ite, pal.

    Min not only beat Buveur D'Air home in that Supreme, but he also finished well ahead of Petit Mouchoir (dual G1 hurdles winner in Ireland the next season), Supasundae (Festival winner over hurdles in the next season) and North Hill Harvey (went on to win Greatwood Hurdle in the next season).

    Everything suggests it was a knock-out running of the Supreme.....something you would realise, if you looked past the end of your nose, and the Henderson runners.

    FWIW, Timeform rate that Supreme bettered only by the 2011 running, where Spirit Son, Sprinter Sacre and Cue Card filled the places behind Al Ferof.
    Behave yourself man...Tombstone neat those 3 as well and he's hardly set the word on fire.

    Using horses that finish out with the washing is not allowed in the real world Wait till he beats something decent as an adult before judging him is all I am saying.
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    He beat Buveur D'Air fair-and-square in the Supreme.............your "looking after him" nonsense is conspiracy-theory cobblers, pal!

    Of course, Tombstone then went on to beat Jezki two race later.....but I'm guessing that doesn't count, or was some kind of a fluke.
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    Granger posted this on another thread:

    I'd say the cute fcuker knows exactly where he is going


    Mullins has yet to formulate a gameplan for Yorkhill, who features prominently in the betting for races like the Gold Cup and the Champion Hurdle.The seven-year-old has won at the last two Cheltenham Festivals and did really well to take top honours in the JLT Novices' Chase in March.
    That was his fourth Grade One triumph, but plans for Yorkhill remain fluid at this stage.
    Mullins said: "We haven't even started schooling him yet so whether he goes over hurdles or fences I don't know yet.
    "He is in great form."

    **********

    When I was there, it was fairly clear that Ruby was desperate for him to be aimed at the Gold Cup. Willie wasn't quite so sure and Wylie hadn't yet had the discussion.

    I'm expecting that they will be experimenting with an impressive array of metal and leather in and around his mouth and that they will initially plan a light, left-handed chasing campaign which will culminate in him being a serious threat to Sizing John and clearly the best of last season's novices.
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    We will find out who the real boss is soon

    Willie or Ruby

    Wylie will be content to toe the party line

    I'd send him to GC but I have fence blinkers

    Keep the fcker left handed obviously too
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I suspect Walsh wants Yorkhill in the Gold Cup, because Mullins doesn't have another horse he can aim at the race (Djakadam a no-hoper), and because he has plenty of options for the QMCC and Ryanair, and the CH if Faugheen comes back to his best.
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    Walsh was calling for the Gold Cup straight after the JLT.
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    Wisely realised Djak was a no-hoper before the last Gold Cup too then, Archie!
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    Djakadam's season probably depends more on the fitness of Douvan and Min (and, maybe, American Tom and VVM).
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    Of the 2-milers, I suspect Min is the one they might up in trip. I can't see them shifting Douvan immediately, and Min marginally less head-strong than GF, who runs too free to be free to be tackling longer trips at this stage*.

    * This heavily-influenced by my 25's about GF in the QMCC.
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    Daily Star Chase tomorrow is an absolute cracker for this early in the season.

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    It is, but the penalty structure in the race ruins it a bit for me.

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    Don't like any of the fancied horses in it

    Probably side with Road To Respect
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    "More of That, Holywell, Albertas Run all budding stable stars 3 canters short of a gallop have started out their season in the Colin Parker Memorial Intermediate Chase at Carlisle but this time Jonjo decides to send Minella Rocco across the water for a 23k prize instead of an easy 15k just up the motorway"

    You can bet your a$$ he's fit and ready and will take some beating
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    He's certainly massively favoured by the weights, that's for sure.

    The 2/1 would look a proper price, if it was running for anyone but Jonjo.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Don't like any of the fancied horses in it

    Probably side with Road To Respect
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    Easy game this
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    This is a good horse-I expect him to win a Grade 1 this season.

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