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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Native River will bounce ?

    To the moon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    To the moon.
    Tony Keenan!!!

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    Correct.

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    I invisage this Gold Cup being almost a carbon copy of the Tied Cottage Alverton year when two horses went miles clear of the rest.

    Only this time unlike Tied Cottage Native River won't be falling at the last and will outstay the Henderson superstar to the line.

    You have 2 horses here, one who has shown the Gold Cup holds no fears, will relish any cut in the ground and looks as if he, as you would expect, has improved.

    On the other hand you have a RSA winner a race that very seldom produces Gold Cup winner 6 in 70 years and a winner of one of the poorest King George's in history by a length from a horse who is thought nowhere near good enough for this.

    That said he is such a charachter there's an excuse been put forward for his poor KG performance in that they say he idled in front (takes lotta bloody idling for Double Shuffle to get close)

    His RSA win was spectacular weird even..........to stop dead and get going again?? unreal but that does not make him a good thing it's as much a minus as a plus.

    Obviously a lot of people agree with me or Might Bite would be odds on like Kauto Star was.....he's not you are getting 7/2 and with good reason.

    I don't mind at this stage as I have them both in accies and in one it might not matter to me which one wins but Might Bite a certainty? he might win but a good thing.......no way!!!
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    Thr RSA winner has gone on to win the Gold Cup twice in the last 6 years, which puts a rather different slant on your use of the statistics.

    Beyond the usual hyperbole, no-one is saying Might Bite is a certainty, or that he should be odds-on. But he has a MUCH better form chance than your post above makes out.

    Best of luck for the week ahead.
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    Cheers mate u2
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    Might Bite is huge for me this week and up until the deluge I've been unshakable that he'll win despite the doubters. I'd be okay with him on soft, but on heavy ground the Gold Cup will be won by a dour stayer. If I still have multiples running on to him on Friday I'll be cashing or trading out.

    Our Duke, Native River, and Definitely Red are clearly advantage by this weather. I have an antepost on the former and I'd be looking to add in the other two depending on prices.

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    Native River just gone into slight fav for this on the machine

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    I think there was much to like about Definitly Red's Cotswold win; seems to have been slightly underrated. He looks good for place, at least.

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    With Sizing John out i started piling on to Might Bite, have him in a £100 double with Altior as well (Waiting Patiently was the other horse I wanted to back but such is life). I don't think the ground will matter and Might Bite will show what a class animal he is. Admirable as Native River is, I think they'd need to go 5 miles for him to catch MB.

    Good luck everyone.
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    Might Bite will win - he’ll just win less emphatically, the softer the ground is.

    FWIW, going on a visual interpretation, the ground looks to be riding a lot better than a ‘Heavy’ going description would suggest - though the race tmes might repudiate that view.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    FWIW, going on a visual interpretation, the ground looks to be riding a lot better than a ‘Heavy’ going description would suggest - though the race tmes might repudiate that view.
    That's what I thought. Times are definitely saying soft so the turf has clearly been well husbanded.
    Two's company, three's allowed.

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    No rain overnight and sun just starting to break through the clouds, in Prestbury village.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Drying wind too. However, could be a fair bit of rain overnight and through tomorrow. Hope they are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    No rain overnight and sun just starting to break through the clouds, in Prestbury village.
    Plenty of rain coming according to the weather bird on ITV

    Claisse will open up some fresh ground too

    Really coming around to the Dook myself
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Our Duke suddenly looks very appealing
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    You finally seen the light....
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel View Post
    You finally seen the light....
    Have been blinded by it since last April.
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel View Post
    You finally seen the light....
    That race was run at a crawl in Ireland and turned into a sprint.

    Davey never really gave it his usual power house ride and waited until after the last not wanting to beat his fella up before Cheltenham.

    Everybody and their uncle knew that and it was even said in a preview I watched
    "Davey had one eye on Cheltenham" was one remark.

    I don't think it can be considered a boost at all... just tell us what we already know and is not an opinion changer for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    That race was run at a crawl in Ireland and turned into a sprint.

    Davey never really gave it his usual power house ride and waited until after the last not wanting to beat his fella up before Cheltenham.

    Everybody and their uncle knew that and it was even said in a preview I watched
    "Davey had one eye on Cheltenham" was one remark.

    I don't think it can be considered a boost at all... just tell us what we already know and is not an opinion changer for me
    You're not telling me anything I don't already know.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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