View Poll Results: Who will win the 2018 CH

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  • Buveur D'Air

    16 53.33%
  • Faugheen

    10 33.33%
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Thread: The Road To The 2018 Champion Hurdle

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    As far a JP's go I suppose 2 heads are better than one. Mullins had 3, any of which could have won with luck, and Ruby ended up on Footpad.

    I a perfect world one would go Champion the other Arkle but 2 mile chasing opportunities may not be that great over the next couple of years with either Douvan and Altior likely to rule the roost if he returns.

    Defi may well win an Arkle but what about the next season?.....the big 2 stay sound he'd be running for place money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viking View Post
    He won't be winning the CH anyway if he goes to The Fighting Fifth


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    John Constable is surely going to be hammered for winning a couple of poorly-contested (albeit quite valuable) races during the summer. I absolutely can't have it that he is a serious Champion Hurdle contender, and I'd go so far as to say he will be the worst-handicapped horse in the country, if he goes up to anything like 160.
    That RP report is on a par with Steve Mullins saying the yard must mean business they have booked Davy Russell DUH!!!!Be interesting to see how much he goes up but it's not going to be much less than 10lbs . Purple Bay hacked up in the race and he got raised a stone won the Elite Hurdle which ended his winning ways and with nowhere to go he ended up wasting his time chasing Faugheen round Kempton along with your old pal Blue Heron.

    We went through this shyte with Brainpower last season when people start thinking these horses win ordinary races easily,he sums get done and suddenly the 50/1 for the CH is value........try 5000/1 which would be more realistic. He'd be 50 on Betfair if he met the likes of Defi in the Fighting Fifth,,,,,,,,,Nice horse got a great ride but a CH contender.?.......fookin nuts is all I can say
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    Not convinced the comparison with Brain Power is at all valid, as he won a proper handicap hurdle; which isn't how I would describe either the Swinton or Summer Hurdles.

    Generally though, I agree, and I'm always happy to oppose anything which showed lots of apparent improvement over the summer/autumn, when they start carrying stopping-weights in competitive winter handicaps.
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    Wonder how Labaik is keeping
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    "The likes of Menorah, Ashkazar, Overturn, Celestial Halo (twice), Any Given Day, Zarkandar (twice), Cape Tribulation, Melodic Rendezvous, Saphir Du Rheu, Whisper, Purple Bay, Silsol (twice), Irving and Arctic Fire proving the calibre of horse required for such a feat"

    And none of those were good enough to win a Champion Hurdle either.
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    The very fact that so many horses have achieved it, rather dilutes the 'feat' in the first place, and the fact that none of the winners are/were genuine G1 hurdlers, further dilutes it.

    If this is a quote from the Post, you have to despair at the level of journalism.
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    I am totally convinced that come March all well before it that 4/1 Buveur D'air is going to look very very generous.

    He's already been there and done it and even if Faugheen does see a racecourse again..name we one horse who came back after a 2 year lay off to win a Champion Hurdle?

    Even if he did come back he'd find the Henderson horse a very hard nut to crack
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    Unless Defi stays hurdling because JP knows something we don't Tanlic
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    I think the only thing JP knows is Defi is very smart and not a bad CH substitute to be having.

    How good he actually is compared to Buveur D'air is anyone's guess but he'd have to improve a ton to displace him as the yards number one hope.

    If you are thinking Buveur D'Air might switch, there's more chance of Enabled going chasing than him
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    "Faugheen is back in full training, though we actually had him doing fast work before we threw him out in the field, after he was not ready for Punchestown. We kept him in the whole month of May."
    Asked if we retained faith in Faugheen, he said: "Of course. Since we decided to let him off, he has come back in with a lot of condition. The Morgiana Hurdle at Punchestown in November would be the aim. He is fit and well, he was unlucky last year."
    "Yorkhill is back riding out every day in good form, though we haven't made a decision on what we will do at this stage - we could go both ways. He is very difficult over fences and finds hurdling a lot easier.
    "Melon has come back very strong, is in good form and, while he could go the novice chase route, we'd probably be angling towards a hurdling campaign. He was very inexperienced going to Cheltenham last year."
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Be nice to think Faugheen might come back to his best.

    Rising 10yo this season, so not impossible.......though he has had an awful lot of time off, and they're bound to go steady-enough with him when he does eventually return to the track.
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    Potentially his best CH prospect isn't even quoted in the market.
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    I'd say Yorkie goes hurdling if Faugheen is still made of glass

    If Ruby has his way, Yorkie stays chasing
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Who is the mystery Champion Hurdle horse, archie?

    Douvan and/or Great Field for Champion Chase?

    Yorkhill and/or Min for Ryanair Chase?

    Nothing for Gold Cup?
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    He either means Min or Melon methinks.

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    Min available at 20/1 and Melon at 25/1. I'd have thought that both will go chasing. I'm talking about the second string for the Supreme.
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    Utterly non biased opinion of course Archie
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    Defi is confirmed CH bound
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Saw it earlier.........the right decision.
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