View Poll Results: Who will win the 2018 CH

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Thread: The Road To The 2018 Champion Hurdle

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    The point I am making is this was nothing special in fact look back 2 years ago when he ran in the same race on Soft to Heavy..both races were 14 second slow but faugheen took 2 seconds longer to win than he did to lose to N.Canyon as the ground no doubt was slightly different.

    Rowlands gets paid to hype up racing whenever he can and get create interest in their product...only starstruck groupies think he's some sort of Deity
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    Bubble burst.


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    Poor run by Defi. He won’t be winning any CH


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    That was poor if there isn’t an excuse. He did land awkwardly on top of a flattened hurdle early on.


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    Same year after year. Different gravy in open company. Very few step up.


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    Clearly disappointed, but that was certainly not DDS's true running. Finishing a bundle of lengths behind Wakea tells us that.

    I've gone in again at 20/1 (each-way) for the Champion Hurdle. Price is an over-reaction.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

    SlimChance, March 2018

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    A case of :- Stronger the pace the further an unfit horse will be beaten.

    I'd bet on him being less than 8/1 after his next run
    Last edited by Tanlic; 25th November 2017 at 5:33 PM.
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    A good example of that is Sir Valentino in the Haldon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear View Post
    That was poor if there isn’t an excuse. He did land awkwardly on top of a flattened hurdle early on.
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    Was wearing a hood in the parade ring but not the race

    Examined by veterinary officer post race, no abnormalities found.

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    They said in the preliminaries that he always wears the hood before heading out to the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post

    I've gone in again at 20/1 (each-way) for the Champion Hurdle. Price is an over-reaction.
    Good man. I like this anti sheep dog approach to ante post betting
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    He’ll be running in the County Hurdle come March. Shades of Ivanovich Gorbatov about this fella.


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    Id Defi ends up a chump there will be martial law on this forum with regards to anyone ever again talking of a triumph horse as anything other than a dirty flat rat
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauto Abu View Post
    He’ll be running in the County Hurdle come March. Shades of Ivanovich Gorbatov about this fella.


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    Appreciate you are probably in a state of mental shock about your BDA bets, after having seen Faugheen’s return, KA.......but that’s no excuse for flannel such as this.

    I will be standing-by, ready to remind you of this statement in March.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

    SlimChance, March 2018

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    I await with anticipation Grass. As for the mental shock, my bets are on the CHAMPION hurdler..I remain supremely confident of BD ability, as I’ve always done. What would he have done to that lot yesterday? Eat them without salt in the same manner as Faugheen last weekend is the answer.


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    There is a line with Campeador previous race through Wakea, so he would've needed to win BDM street style to properly enjoy his meal like Faugheen did last week

    Defi was very disapointing and I'm not sure 20/1 is such an over-reaction. I remember P&C few years ago, was higher rated and had a similar debut in older company. Things only got worse. Same for Ivanovich G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Id Defi ends up a chump there will be martial law on this forum with regards to anyone ever again talking of a triumph horse as anything other than a dirty flat rat
    It should become a general rule for punters, don't bet for the CH on Triumph horses until after their first start in open company.

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    My only Singles* on Defi for the Champion Hurdle, were struck after his defeat yesterday; firstly when he was pushed to 14/1, and again when he was pushed to 20/1.

    Yorkhill, Min and Apples Jade are all shorter in the Champion Hurdle market, and yet the strong likelihood is that none of them will run. He is also the same price as Limini and Lets Dance - neither of whom will run if Faugheen gets there.

    As per previous, I was obviously hoping for and expecting better yesterday from Defi. But when I look at the market dispassionately, I can’t get away from 20/1 looking a knocking each-way price, because the head of the market will fall apart, and there isn’t anything else that is progressive-looking enough, to emerge as a genuine threat to the front two.



    * For clarity, I have Defi in a handful of early Yankees and Canadians at 8/1. Admittedly, that price doesn’t look to smart right now.
    Last edited by Grasshopper; 26th November 2017 at 11:32 AM.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    On this season's form, I'd say Melon is a much better chance than DDS.
    The older I get the better I was.

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    20s does seem an over-reaction though, Grassy is right about that.

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