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    Quote Originally Posted by Len Madeiros View Post
    I cannot desert Kalashnikov in this one. I noted him at Wetherby in early November - there's sure to be a bloodbath at Sandown tomorrow, after he's gunned his rivals down.
    I'm with him too and will be surprised if he goes off 9-4

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    I don't think he'll win but Jetz is a horse that will win a race at a decent price soon.

    He was green as grass on debut and strikes me as one with more to come in time.

    33\1 outsider Sunday, he is definitely better than that
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Massive fan of Kalashnikov. Hated that ground clearly but battled well.

    Think he needs a bit further, but if the grounds good i don't think he'd be disgraced in the Supreme

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    Showed guts which is a plus.

    Nicholls horse could be a beast in time
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double J View Post
    Massive fan of Kalashnikov. Hated that ground clearly but battled well.

    Think he needs a bit further, but if the grounds good i don't think he'd be disgraced in the Supreme
    Thought he struggled to pick-up the bridle myself (had a decent bet on him). Think he'd be run off his feet in the Supreme, based on that outing, to be honest.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Some eejit made We Have a Dream fav for the Supreme.???? the winner was not running today you can bet on that
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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Showed guts which is a plus.

    Nicholls horse could be a beast in time
    You’re not wrong about the Nichols horse. IF it had jumped even half well would have spreadeagled them.

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    The bumper winner at Chepstow as well next year will be some hurdler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP Only View Post
    The bumper winner at Chepstow as well next year will be some hurdler.
    Good boy Bobby 14/1 with lots of firms now for the champion bumper, but still 33/1 with PP & Sportsbook

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP Only View Post
    You’re not wrong about the Nichols horse. IF it had jumped even half well would have spreadeagled them.
    Had a look at the pace as well in comparison to the closing handicap hurdle. I got the Tolworth almost 3s (2.8) slower from the second last to the line than the handicap.

    Interestingly I got the Tolworth 4.3s quicker from the first to the first down the back (caveat - these were using my phone!). If the Nichols horse settled and jumped a shade better he could be a serious horse. Should be an exciting novice chaser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    I don't think he'll win but Jetz is a horse that will win a race at a decent price soon.

    He was green as grass on debut and strikes me as one with more to come in time.

    33\1 outsider Sunday, he is definitely better than that
    You think he wants 3m? Either he was fairly green still the last day against Next Destination or is a bit of a boat. Was a bit of a bizarre race with all of the first three losing their position at one point or another (most notably Cracking Smart - who looks an absolute steamliner).

    The one I am interested in seeing is Speak Easy of O'Briens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trackside528 View Post
    You think he wants 3m? Either he was fairly green still the last day against Next Destination or is a bit of a boat. Was a bit of a bizarre race with all of the first three losing their position at one point or another (most notably Cracking Smart - who looks an absolute steamliner).

    The one I am interested in seeing is Speak Easy of O'Briens.
    Prob best at 3 but he is one I see improving in every race this year.

    I have noticed with JH that she is happier than most to bring them along very slowly.
    Last edited by granger; 6th January 2018 at 8:54 PM.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP Only View Post
    The bumper winner at Chepstow as well next year will be some hurdler.
    Flemensfirth out of a full sister to Voler La Vedette; that is a pedigree to die for !

    Some hurdler, some chaser , one for every tracker.

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    blow by blow worth an e/w flyer today?

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    Duc Des Genievres an eye catcher in third today looking like another half mile wouldn’t have been out of the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Thought he struggled to pick-up the bridle myself (had a decent bet on him). Think he'd be run off his feet in the Supreme, based on that outing, to be honest.
    Kalashnikov lost a shoe and suffered an overreach

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    LMAOROTF!!! can we get real..if any one of these get a place at Cheltenham in a festival race 3 if I am wrong please push the no button
    Last edited by Tanlic; 7th January 2018 at 7:41 PM.
    Formely Fist of Fury

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    From that run today I'd say Mullins will have to take on Samcro in the Ballymore with Next Destination rather than go for the potato race. He traveled and jumped supremely well but seemed to run out of petrol towards the end.

    I haven't read post race quotes however.

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    That’s what he said Bear but said he would also get an entry in the AB & also the Supreme.

    Neptune will be hot with him, Samcro & On The Blind Side all intended runners. Cracking Smart looks decent value at 8s for the AB. Ran 2nd behind ND last 2 times and clearly needs 3m.


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    There will be some value in the Albert Bartlett market but it's notoriously difficult to predict the winner of that race.

    The Neptune usually works out to be the best novice hurdle of the festival.

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