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    I am reading the form doesn't match the price but where they get that from beats me. On every line I can find Samcro easily comes out on top

    1. Duc Des Genievres on his first run for Mullins went off at 25/1 and finished 4 lengths behind Next Destination.
    On his second outing when you would expect him to progress he was beaten 6 lengths by Samcro.

    2. Next Destination was run to 1 length by Samcro's much inferior stable companion Cracking Smart who hasn't even been entered at the festival

    3. On a line through the consistant Jetz Samcro has 4 lengths in hand

    4. Visually he looks different gravy to Next Destination who looks a bit one paced whereas Samcro looks to quicken on a sixpence.

    I simply can't find one reason why Samcro isn't much shorter in the market.....Looks the banker of the week to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    I am reading the form doesn't match the price but where they get that from beats me. On every line I can find Samcro easily comes out on top

    1. Duc Des Genievres on his first run for Mullins went off at 25/1 and finished 4 lengths behind Next Destination.
    On his second outing when you would expect him to progress he was beaten 6 lengths by Samcro.

    2. Next Destination was run to 1 length by Samcro's much inferior stable companion Cracking Smart who hasn't even been entered at the festival

    3. On a line through the consistant Jetz Samcro has 4 lengths in hand

    4. Visually he looks different gravy to Next Destination who looks a bit one paced whereas Samcro looks to quicken on a sixpence.

    I simply can't find one reason why Samcro isn't much shorter in the market.....Looks the banker of the week to me
    Cracking smart was favorite for the potato race before suffering a setback. Don't let the facts put you off though!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double J View Post
    Anyone opposing Samcro?
    Me. I have to.

    Samcro is very much the talking horse of the week but he’s only 5lbs clear on ORs and just 2lbs in front of Next Destination on RPRs. I’m not sure I want to be backing an odds-on shot on that basis. I’m more drawn to Vision Des Flos as an each-way shout. I’m 6lbs behind ORs and more again behind RPRs but I don’t know if they have anything built in for easiness of victory. The form book suggested he was better than Poetic Rhythm on his first run this season and that one is now rated 148. When he took on On The Blind Side he was backed early before drifting again. OTBS is now rated 153. Last time out, his first after a wind op, he beat the 135-rated Mercenaire by 31 lengths in heavy ground. I haven’t taken that form literally because of the ground but at least we know it won’t bother him.
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    I'm against samcro also next destination ew for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlelad View Post
    Cracking smart was favorite for the potato race before suffering a setback. Don't let the facts put you off though!!!

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    Missed that but it doesn't change the fact Giggie think he is inferior to Samcro does it? So I won't be letting the tattie info bother me one little bit
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    13/8 without Samcro might be the best bet of all
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    Samcro looks very promising but would have preferred him in yesterday's race

    Have to see how he handles the travel over, racing in a big field and very likely some Mullins tactics with all the runners he has entered up.
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    All class.

    Travelled like a special horse.

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    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    More than a bit special. He oozes sheer class and his demeanour shouts superstar.
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    All over at the top of the hill is the mark of a very good horse

    Not sure what the future holds for him......Champion Hurdle? Arkle? or further?
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    Next Destination has made up an incredible amount of ground from the back of the last. He'll make a lovely staying chaser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    All over at the top of the hill is the mark of a very good horse

    Not sure what the future holds for him......Champion Hurdle? Arkle? or further?
    Given owners, chasing nap.
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonjers View Post
    Next Destination has made up an incredible amount of ground from the back of the last. He'll make a lovely staying chaser.
    Ran in the wrong race. Will need soft i reckon so Leopardstown will suit him and definitely a trip.
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Ran in the wrong race. Will need soft i reckon so Leopardstown will suit him and definitely a trip.
    They have had some shocking luck with their top chasers - War of Attrition, Weapons Amnesty and the Don all suffering bad injuries. Maybe this one will get a clear run at it, certainly looks to have all the ability in the world.
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    Next Destination would have won the Albert Bartlett

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagship uberalles View Post
    They have had some shocking luck with their top chasers - War of Attrition, Weapons Amnesty and the Don all suffering bad injuries. Maybe this one will get a clear run at it, certainly looks to have all the ability in the world.
    ND I was on about. Not a Gigi hoss.
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    ND I was on about. Not a Gigi hoss.
    Ah - I quoted the wrong post
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