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    Doubt SDC will scale great heights again
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Which leads to the elephant in the room, how certain is it that CF stays
    Looks a given on pedigree - his half-brother ran in the 4 miler when a year younger.
    RSA was on his dance card last year, too.

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    I would like to see him take his chance but how many horses actually manage to make all in the Cheltenham Gold Cup which is basically his modus operandi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fonz View Post
    I would like to see him take his chance but how many horses actually manage to make all in the Cheltenham Gold Cup which is basically his modus operandi.
    They mentioned somewhere that a change of tactics would happen this term
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I don't think anyone should be surprised or disappointed if Holywell doesn't win this afternoon.

    I'm half-expecting him to be gubbed out of sight but will be delighted if he wins.
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    You're on at 50s aren't you?

    I can't believe people are backing him at 10s given his Cheltenham bias (or maybe he's just a bit of a spring horse)

    Delighted with Taquin yesterday. They didn't go much of a gallop and he was caught a bit flat footed when the race began properly but I loved the way he stayed on.

    Sil Conti I've never been a fan of but he might be backable for the Betfair now

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    Yes. I'm on at 50s. I wouldn't be interested at 10s or thereabouts as I expect him to have a quietish campaign ahead of a return to form at the Festival but you never know with O'Neill. Maybe he feels the horse has nothing to hide now.

    If I end up going off the beast at least I should be able to lay the bet off and either guarantee myself a profit or at least get the stake back to go on something else I might end up fancying more strongly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Sil Conti I've never been a fan of but he might be backable for the Betfair now
    16's for the Gold Cup might be a more fruitful bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I don't think anyone should be surprised or disappointed if Holywell doesn't win this afternoon.

    I'm half-expecting him to be gubbed out of sight but will be delighted if he wins.
    Only saw the race via an iffy stream but I thought Holywell ran a most satisfactory race.
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    Ran a perfectly satisfactory race D.O
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    No problem with that at all and good to see AP looking after him. Over-reaction by BetVictor to push him out to 14s

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    Jonjo will be over the moon with Holywell. He knows what it takes to win a Gold Cup and this horse looks as tough as Syncronized was.

    He may not be the classiest horse in the filed but if it turns out that stamina and determination wins the day he lacks nothing.

    As for Silviniaco Conti.......if he starts off now he'll still find something to beat him.

    I just don't trust him. Has talent but Def has a screw loose and the only reason he won the King George is Joe Tizzard has a screw loose as well and rode the horse like he was Pegasus for 90% of the race.

    Even over 3m2f with someone like Ruby or Barry G on I would back Cue Card to beat him.
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    agree with euro in that S Conti might be a price for the betfair now but there's that doubt in my mind that it might just be a little on the sharp side for him. mainly as you can't be sure they are running the advertised distance.

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    Would need to be ridden a deal more aggressively than last year, though that would certainly cook Cue Card's goose.

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    Silviniaco Conti ran a stinker at Wetherby so either PN got his maths wrong on how fit he had him or he is losing his way.

    Need to be stone mad to take Cue Card on from the start at Haydock. If he did it would be very easy to drop Cue Card in and let SC get on with it.

    Doubt if he'll beat Cue Card no matter how it's run
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    Obviously want to see how Cue Card returns tomorrow but I would probably want to be with Cue Card or Dynaste over Conti in the betfair.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Silviniaco Conti ran a stinker at Wetherby so either PN got his maths wrong on how fit he had him or he is losing his way.

    Need to be stone mad to take Cue Card on from the start at Haydock. If he did it would be very easy to drop Cue Card in and let SC get on with it.

    Doubt if he'll beat Cue Card no matter how it's run
    PN got little wrong, and was quite satisfied with the run. The married man's pace SC set was clear indication of his intention.

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    Silviniaco Conti is a horse I've never really taken to, but given so many of Nicholls horses have needed the outing I'm prepared to ignore Saturday's run despite what he said Reet.
    Last edited by Maruco; 3rd November 2014 at 8:21 PM.

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    yes we got that really good Betfair chase to look forward to..pity its at the Bermuda Triangle of racecourses with cookie the clown in charge...guess the distance..guess the ground

    what a farce of a place...they ought to move the Betfair to another track...Doncaster would be my idea of a similarish track..one thats got furlong markers...a furlong apart etc.

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    It's registered name is the Lancashire Chase, so balls to having it at a Yorkshire track.
    Last year apart it's been a fine race on a good track, and the fences are better now as well

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