Ground might be too quick for him to run next week but out soon hopefully.Originally Posted by Grasshopper
Very Wood runs in the Galway race tomorrow that has produced some good recent winners - Don Cossack, Lyreen Legend, Jessie's Dream, last Installment
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Alright performance. They pulled clear. Certainly not a flashy animal
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Spot on Granger... The Tullow Tank not running tomorrow.
Shanahans Turn still in there.
Will win something at a decent price this season
Surprised at the tissue prices
Both of them would like a bit more cut
Last edited by granger; 29th October 2014 at 12:21 AM.
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
a lot to like about ST today.
HBD is a brilliant trainer too
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Agreed and they clearly rate him a bit talking about the Florida Pearl Novice Chase or Drinmore
Apache Stronghold entered at Down Royal tomorrow & hopefully we get to see him
Apache Stronghold declared
It's a great card including the grade 2 hurdle with Guitar Pete, Tiger Roll & Arctic Fire, Morning Run in the mares hurdle and Black Zambezi in the NH flat race for the Winning Ways (Cantoris?) syndicate
Wicklow Brave looks to be still in that race too. I had him rated a fraction higher than Arctic Fire going to Cheltenham Festival last season.
I appreciate Ruby's comments recently on AF and he has chosen to ride him tomorrow, but I'll be very interested to see prices.
I'm not saying he will win, but I'm anticipating Wicklow Brave could be very good value if he lines up.........
I also think any more rain would favour Wicklow Brave over Arctic Fire.
15/2 Wiclow Brave has to be the bet at the prices.....?
They're probably closer talent-wise than the market suggests, DH.....but Ruby having the pick must tell us something. Maybe AF is slightly straighter than WB, maybe he's schooled a little better, maybe he's been winning gallop head-to-heads pulling-up trees? Who knows really, but it has a legitimate bearing on the market, and when you add the degree of guesswork usually associated with early-season novice chases, I wouldn't quibble with the prices too much.
It looks a race to watch rather than bet in.
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
Tricky race to call tomorrow and more than just a square up between the two Mullins soldiers.
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
Yeah I agree it's a highly competitive little race. Little King Robin a fine mare too & in super form.
And in terms of a bet, it will be a small one. I just see a value angle on WB.
The 2 Mullins horses get a nice little 4lb pull with Tiger Roll and Guitar Pete also.
And as Grassy says, Ruby picking AF must tell us something, but I suppose I'm taking the view that WB price is a market overreaction to that....
I've often been on a Ruby horse in the past where a stablemate has come and done him, so it's not inconceivable.
Just monitoring the going too, currently saying 'yeilding' and any rain overnight could change that.
If there is 'soft' in the going tomorrow, it suits WB as Tiger Roll and Arctic Fire both prefer a sounder surface imo.
WKD Hurdle looks like the best race anywhere today.
I backed Tiger Roll in his last race and I honestly thought I had done my money.
He had to be really pushed to try and get on terms with the front running Calipto and din't look like getting there until PN's horse found the hill a bit too much for him.
If the past is anything to go by he's going to meet another front runner today in Little King Robin.
On her last run she went off in front and not for one second did she look like stopping and whats more unlike Calipto at Cheltenham she never touched a twig all the way round.
Tiger Roll seems to take time to get going and that could work dead against him with her in the field. I think he'll be hard pushed to get near her but if he does it will have taken so much out of him he himself won't see this one out.
Arctic Fire on the other hand is a a very good traveller and it should be much easier for him to keep tabs on the mare.
In his last hurdle race he showed tremendous speed to get away from the pack as they approached the last then found even more after they humped it.
It's hard to tell how good the mare is but she looks better than her rating would suggest but then so does Artic Fire.
I'm tempted to back the mare but I'll go along with Artic Fire who may have enough speed to get past her but it wont be easy imo
Arctic Fire to win and a RFC with Little King Robin for me..
Formely Fist of Fury
You'd think that AF would be better prepared than WB, as he's unlikely to get his ground for much longer, whereas the latter could well run all through the winter.
Last edited by reet hard; 31st October 2014 at 6:44 AM.
Nice round of Jumping from Apache Stronghold today.
It was. He doesn't have an action that suggests soft ground is necessary either.
I couldn't be happier, he jumped like a buck. He will improve for that, but he was fit enough for the race. Paul thinks he'll be better with a good gallop. He hasn't schooled on grass, he schooled on all-weather so you never know. He does like getting goodish ground, but he should go on anything. The Drinmore has to be the race but I also have Very Wood, but he may want further. We'll have to see about whether we can get a race into him (Apache Stronghold) before the Drinmore.Noel Meade
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Great racing today, but not much on the novice chase front. My only bet will be Solar Impulse at Wetherby. 6/4 is a bit stingy but committed to back him next time after his Newton Abbot run
Hopefully we see Lieutenant Colonel and Minella Foru tomorrow
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
No bet as Katachenko's a NR & can't back at odds on in a Nov hcap chase
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