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    Cheers - keeping the operation a bit more focused.

    Must be a bit awkward on Cooper given his allegiance to the Hughes family.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Cheers - keeping the operation a bit more focused.

    Must be a bit awkward on Cooper given his allegiance to the Hughes family.

    Thats not not coopers main problem, if they are talking decisiones on results, his position as stable jockey could be in trouble very soon.

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    Eoin Griffin with three horses for them last season - two won, RPR's of all three above 125.

    Maybe should have done better but he's had three horses and nearly won a Grade 3 with one of them and the others are probably as good as they've shown (for all they looked very nice early on).

    Sandra Hughes got them two Grade 1 wins and an Irish National in 2014/15, not a great 2015/16 but seems a touch harsh given she hardly gets the pick of the bunch with regards to the Gigginstown horses.

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    The Irish Grand National is "only a handicap !" according to Ml O Leary.

    Tough tough tough

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    The Irish Grand National is "only a handicap !" according to Ml O Leary.

    Tough tough tough
    Mouse Morris better watch out then.

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    I imagine he was on the list to go before end of march but his two grand national results put him out of relegation zone.
    His Gold Cup win with War of Attrition was the start of the juggernaut of course so maybe his future was safe anyway.

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    Understandable decision: what's the problem?

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    Have gigi ever had a horse with Jessie Harrington?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    They may not go about it gently and you could ask whether it's really right to run what is essentially a hobby as a business but I think fair enough. Loathe him or hate him, oléary is no mug and is rightly demanding

    What I do find weird is having all your horses with one trainer. Ricci Mullins . That's bonkers Imo. Regardless of the current success you always have to have "if you don't fcking like it we will see what Nichols makes of him then" up your sleeve don't you?

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    I think you can count the horses that have moved from Mullins and improved on the fingers of one foot.
    The older I get the better I was.

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    I take your point Clive but i'm guessing Ricci's thoughts are who can supply me with the best horses and on that basis it's Mullins - bear in mind they haven't paid a fortune for a good % of their horses
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Gigginstown

    If I had a load of horses I'd spread them around personally because it'd be more fun, but I'm pretty sure Ricci is happy with the results of what he's doing.
    Last edited by BennyB; 27th May 2016 at 11:55 AM.

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    They have 5 with Henry at the minute

    He has overachieved with Identity Thief to date, so possibly a good chance he might get a good one of them again this summer
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    I think you can count the horses that have moved from Mullins and improved on the fingers of one foot.
    Hmmm, not sure I see that as a good thing. Re: Ricci, he already has horses with Henderson - had a winner at Bangor (I think) not that long ago, in partnership with Buckley, so not all his eggs are quite in one basket. As for how little he spends on horses, that always makes me smile - the cracking tales about the cheap success stories are good TV aren't they?

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    Welcome Jane. My point was that, if Mullins can't get the best out of your horse, it's unlikely that anyone else can. I know from experience that he moves them on quick enough if he doesn't think they will make the grade and the big owners appreciate that and are happy to cut their losses. I'd have thought that Ricci spends less per horse than most of the other big owners.
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    Compared to some of the sums paid by gigi for point winners and someone like Barry Connell, Ricci has gotten some remarkable value

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    Welcome Jane. My point was that, if Mullins can't get the best out of your horse, it's unlikely that anyone else can. I know from experience that he moves them on quick enough if he doesn't think they will make the grade and the big owners appreciate that and are happy to cut their losses. I'd have thought that Ricci spends less per horse than most of the other big owners.
    Thank you Archie. I suppose the question I would ask is how many fit young horses, with potential, leave Mullins (or any big yard)? Some yards sell on horses on a regular basis, to self-finance, and rely on them doing well elsewhere to keep going; others want the end product - I think we are probably saying the same thing. I don't agree at all, though, that Ricci spends less than other owners. Perhaps more discreetly. They buy privately out the of pointing field, some of which never make the grade, and he must have a colossal amount of horses from all price ranges. If the cheaper ones are doing better, perhaps that is telling him something about his advisors!

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    The French bloodstock agent who sources Mullins French imports (rather well) works exclusively for Mullins doesn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harry View Post
    The French bloodstock agent who sources Mullins French imports (rather well) works exclusively for Mullins doesn't he?
    He does.

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