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    The Sussex ride was Queally's best and proved the horse can relax in front. If he rides him like that they won't catch him. Basically the same ride that Cirrus Des Aigles got in the Ganay.
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    For me, the Sussex showed he'd be better at less than a mile (had it won from some way out, off steady early fractions) and it would be crazy sending him out to make all at 10f.
    Didn't it take half of last season to teach him to settle, anyway?

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    It did but now he is settled I personally think its the best way to ride him. All this horse wants to do is gallop and lead - let loose on the front I genuinely believe we'll see some more special performances this year and hopefully one that takes him into the 140's bracket. Beating Cirrus Des Aigles by 8 lengths should do it!!!
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    Bullet Train is entered in the Prince of Wales and Eclipse, suggesting that they haven't ruled out the use of a pacemaker over 10f.

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    Rerouted was meant to be a pacemaker!!

    I watched the 2011 guineas again last night... Still sets the pulse racing. I'm not sure i'll ever see the Guineas won like that again!
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    Yeah but Bullet Train actually was his pacemaker. I don't think Bullet Train's form is the reason he has the exact same four Group 1 entries as his three-parts brother

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    Fair point Gareth and i'm sure thats the rationale for his entry - I was just being flippant! It's almost ironic that Frankel has a pacemaker though because they're never going quick enough for him!!!

    He's shown he can run either way in the QEII and the Sussex but even if they don't do it first time i'd love to see them run him from the front over 10f.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn View Post
    I'd love to see them run him from the front over 10f.
    ...They'd be mad to do it and I cannot believe Henry Cecil would allow it to happen. It would be suicidal.
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    There is going from the front and going like he did in the Guineas. They are two very different things.

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    I could be the judge!

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    Have moved a few posts about Frankel from another thread into here.

    Thought his gallop (as pictured) was everything you could want to see in the circumstances.

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    In Frankel's case is a pacemaker a waste of time? If there is no pace on he will stride and won't come back, even over 12f. If there is a good pace on he would settle better. I don't think he'll ever be beat because of the pace of the race.

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    The Ascot website says there are some Grandstand tickets available for Champions Day but will only let you book a racecard online - does anyone know if there are in fact some available?
    Last edited by Steve T; 29th September 2012 at 10:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve T View Post
    The Ascot website says there are some Grandstand tickets available for Champions Day but will only let you book a racecard online - does anyone know if there are in fact some available?
    There are. The opening of the Champions Bar section freed up Grandstand tickets but you have to ring to book them. 0844 346 3000.

    While we're on it, could anyone advise on the best way to get there from Heathrow. Is it easier to get a taxi or train/bus. Any advice most welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcotic Nora View Post
    There are. The opening of the Champions Bar section freed up Grandstand tickets but you have to ring to book them. 0844 346 3000
    Thanks.
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    If you're doing it by taxi you'd want to be sharing the cost with others. It takes about 40 minutes. The quickest alternative from Heathrow is train or bus to Reading and train from there to the course, which takes about 90 minutes.

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    We'll be getting the train from London. Should I be booking tickets or is it ok just to turn up on the day?

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    Always cheaper to book train tickets in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimChance View Post
    In Frankel's case is a pacemaker a waste of time? If there is no pace on he will stride and won't come back, even over 12f. If there is a good pace on he would settle better. I don't think he'll ever be beat because of the pace of the race.
    The only way he'll be beaten is if he gives them a 10 length head start and even then it would be close!!

    That was group 1 winning work yesterday.
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