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    From today's Irish Times:

    Racecourse media rights in final furlong

    Talks over the future of latest batch of media rights put on the block by Ireland’s racecourses are still going on




    First published: Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 11:51





    Talks over the future of the latest batch of media rights put on the block by Ireland’s racecourses are still going on, even though many observers were expecting an announcement by now.

    The package currently being negotiated involves satellite TV, the increasingly important digital streaming and rights to pictures sold to countries outside Ireland and Britain.

    State body Horse Racing Ireland (HRI) does the negotiating, although the 26 courses themselves have to ratify any deal. It recently entered into exclusive talks with Attheraces, current holder of the satellite TV broadcasting rights. It also has the streaming and international rights.

    While the Attheraces bid is obviously the strong favourite, it does appear that the door is still ajar to a competing bid from Racing UK and Setanta.
    The former, part of Racecourse Media Group, has the rights to most of Britain’s top tracks, including the likes of Cheltenham, Aintree and Epsom, and is known to be keen to expand over here.

    The financial ins and outs of each deal are not known, but the Racing UK/Setanta venture involved a dedicated Irish racing channel shown free on the UPC platform.

    This contrasts with Attheraces, which shows Irish racing along with action
    from – mostly lesser known – British courses.

    Interestingly, one of Irish racing’s best- known names, national hunt jockey, Ruby Walsh, made his feelings known in his most recent Irish Examiner column. Walsh first of all declared an interest by pointing out that Racing UK has sponsored him for four years and he was part of the joint bid. With that out of the way, he argued that the competing bid was a compelling proposal that would have showcased Irish racing, both here and in Britain. At the same time, he pointed out that Racing UK paid £46 million back to its 33 British courses last year. Overall, he said that not going with Racing UK represents a missed opportunity for the sport.

    Fundamentally, Walsh argued that the deal would not just have been financially beneficial, but would also have promoted racing as a sport and not simply a betting product.
    I still think that Irish racing is better off staying with ATR rather than being on its own channel. Most people who follow Irish racing are also interested in UK racing, and an increasing proportion of UK racing people also like to keep an eye on Irish racing. How many of them would continue to bother if they had to seek it out, and possibly pay extra for it, on a separate channel?

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    Robert Hall wrote the article I referred to in Irish Field late June/early July. He too is part of Highflyer productions that Ruby is involved with.
    Using the channel to control revenue from ebetting outlets is the nub of their argument.

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    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I think Brian O'Connor has it right in his irishracing.com blog

    August 26, 2013 by Brian O'Connor

    A lot of noses appear out of joint over the media rights issue with HRI apparently bending over backwards to favour the ATR/SIS bid which has finally emerged victorious. Grumbling persists about exclusive negotiating positions, and a supposed reluctance to let the market decide, but surely an argument can be made that this deal fundamentally preserves the TV rights market which has to be important.

    There is general consensus that a failure to secure the Irish racing rights would have scuppered ATR, leaving RUK in a monopoly position which in the long-term could leave Irish racing in a weaker position. After all, it’s a hard haggle when there’s only one buyer.

    HRI is in something of a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don’t position here but only the naive can believe that a five year deal already in place between the racecourses and SIS didn’t automatically count for a lot when considering the differing offers. And just as important is what the business landscape will be when the TV rights again come up for sale: ditch ATR now, and what are the chances of having only one offer on the table next time?

    Of course an entirely new player could have emerged by then – or not. But making the most of an asset requires competition, and with Irish racing’s interests currently best served by having competition in Britain, HRI’s call, allied to the not inconsiderable attraction of almost E45,000 a meeting for the racecourses, means a charge of sour grapes can be laid at the door of HRI’s critics, many of whom have been resolutely pursuing their own agendas anyway.
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    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Very good interview, thanks Granger.

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    Yes, a good read

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    Irish Field say HD is going to be rolled out at all Irish racecourses
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Irish Field say HD is going to be rolled out at all Irish racecourses
    They'd be better rolling-out beer-mats to stick under the shoogly-leg of each camera they use at Irish tracks.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    You have a point, those camera guys get very shivery perched in their cherry pickers in the high winds.

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    Bryan Cooper does an online blog too apparently

    http://www.racingfx.co.uk/bryan-cooper/
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    its like they have bloody Parkinsons

    But really not good for racing overall if this disappears from atr. i really enjoy the coverage and racing needs to be available

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    I wish Claire wouldn't ask people/owners who've just won a major race about possible tilts at Royal Ascot. Really annoying.
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-s...oyle-1.2324272

    This is quite a good piece from a journalist who says he knows nothing about racing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey View Post
    http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-s...oyle-1.2324272

    This is quite a good piece from a journalist who says he knows nothing about racing
    pretty good alright. He could break things down. Sue Magnier has one of the great jobs in racing
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Erm, what's going on at Ballydoyle?

    Who is David O'Meara?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    NH Podcasts are back - what a time to be an ear

    Racehour, Final Furlong and the new Jumps racing Podcast have all landed today
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I listened to the FF post-Chelts podcast only this morning. The FF team must have gone skint during the meeting!

    Not tried the Racehour or Jumps Racing podcasts before, What do I need to search for on App, granger?
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    #racehour

    The Jumps Racing Podcast

    itunes on Apple

    i use podcast addict on Android

    the racehour guys are tied in with Ricci and Betbright. joe Tizzard is on it and shits over Finians going RSA
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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