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    This is pretty outrageous stuff - fair play to you Andy.

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    Thanks that's the big difference when you know you're getting genuine ground you can rely on,plus you've got a draw edge if only they left all meetings alone like this would be so much easier to bet with confidence,at least 5 meetings this week have been given as gd/fm but in reality have been gd/gdsft purely from over watering this is what the ground should be every day at most meetings..

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    Absolutely outstanding mate. Can't believe I didn't back it, I'm a moron to think I knew better.

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    Looks like they overwatered at ascot ridiculous not one race near standard yet ground apparently quicker today yet finishing time a lot slower than genuine gd/fm nearer good ground and reversal in draw complete and utter farce if they chuck another lot on tonight and havn't looked at the times of the race you could end up betting on gd/gdsft,ruined the rest of the meeting..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Looks like they overwatered at ascot ridiculous not one race near standard yet ground apparently quicker today yet finishing time a lot slower than genuine gd/fm nearer good ground and reversal in draw complete and utter farce if they chuck another lot on tonight and havn't looked at the times of the race you could end up betting on gd/gdsft,ruined the rest of the meeting..
    As soon as the first race was over the betting for the 5.00 completely flipped. Hilarious to watch.

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    Putting on another 4mm on top of that ground will be good at best easy side of looking at todays times,trainers will be fuming after their fast ground horses have run tomorrow a simple thing by looking at the times a complete and utter farce,guarantee they will be moaning about watering because it definitely won't be gd/fm..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Putting on another 4mm on top of that ground will be good at best easy side of looking at todays times,trainers will be fuming after their fast ground horses have run tomorrow a simple thing by looking at the times a complete and utter farce,guarantee they will be moaning about watering because it definitely won't be gd/fm..
    The Britannia today was 2.7 seconds slower on supposedly faster ground and they won on the other side of the track which horse are they over watering for Caravaggio!!

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    Do you think Caravaggio is worth opposing Gigilo ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jas1968 View Post
    Do you think Caravaggio is worth opposing Gigilo ?


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    Had already put up harrys ante post in the race because of the fast ground time at haydock,that was the main point of the bet rattling ground while carravaggio it makes no difference the race could turn into a farce if harrys doesn't go on the slower ground,where have you been fella been missing all the fire works..
    Very unlucky trying to make all from there on faster ground think he may have gone clear perfect grpund for carravaggio Kirby didn't want to punish harrys either trouble is getting that very qwuick ground,nothing like good firm today...good ground at best..
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    Commonwealth cup 23rd june..

    Not a race I would normally bother with but given the run of Harry angel today then just purely on the way he won and the time then must be worth a bet,on this season was beaten fair and square by blue point but todays time and form looks a red hot run especially on the clock.The winning time of todays race over the 6fs at haydock fast by 2.64 seconds but was done with maybe another couple more lengths in hand and still won by 4 1/2ls mubtasim was over 6 1/4ls behind but at ascot only 1 1/2ls at ascot when behind harry's angel and blue point.
    The most significant thing being ease of win and the time of the following group 2 over 5fs the temple stakes won by the improving priceless with goldream rated 110 in second,that race was quick by 1.45 seconds a massive difference between the two races considering how easily the cox won over the 6fs,probably the temple astakes form looks a little suspect through the 3rd and 4th places.The winning time of the fillies and mares race also 2.24 seconds slower than harrys angel and again considering ease of win looks very good,he's only 9/2 4/1 but will surely go off something nearer 11/4 -5/1 on the day despite caravaggio looking very good on seasonal debut.Still looking at todays time and not knowing how ,uch more improvement to come fromharrys angel must be the value in race,obviously quicker the ground the better and hopefully will be on the day,also the way he won today will surely be ridden prominently in future and already looks decent trade and maybe in running.

    July cup Harrys angel 10/1 ppower/victor

    Only just collared today and after the watering producing dead slower ground at ascot got to be worth another chance,although trying to dominate these sort of races is always going to be difficult he undoubtedly will be rode with slightly more restraint in future.The chances are the ground will be quicker for the july cup although getting the ground he got at haydock with all the watering they do now you need a bit of luck,very strange watering the ground last night after it was blatently obvious was riding good yet they still decided to put another 4mm on last night.Thought the run of mubtasim thrashed by harrys angel looked the 2nd best horse in the jersey behind le brivido beaten 2 1/2ls in the jersey et beaten 6 1/2ls by harrys in a canter that now catches the eye,i wouldn't have expected him to run as well as he did at haydock on the ground at ascot after watering,still think he ran well considering he will always be a hostage to fortune but could still potentially be in the top 2/3 sprinters if he gets his ground..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Royal hunt cup

    Turning into a bit of a cliff horse donncha but bar its last run it's still hard to knock the horse mark hasn't moved hardly at all in last dozen runs and has been unlucky in a quarter of those,there are obvious improvers in the race fastnet tempest and banksea and George william he finished behind those three at newbury but only a couple of lengths and is weighted to finish upsiode them again.His last run over the c/d at ascot was in the balmoral handicap in October coming what looked with a winning run and completekly stopped in run finished behind afjaan and morando also running in the hunt cup all these five are infront of him in the betting and although a couple are open to more progress he's 2 1/2 times the price he was in the balmoral.He's hardly run a bad race at the track over 7fs and a mile the only negative I can see is soft ground he appears not to stay the mile to run to his best on that ground anything else should be fine...Might add another yet when I have a better look at the race,can't really see donncha going off 25/1 although I don't think he will contract as he normally does as this does look a slightly better race but still can't see him being bigger than 14/1-16/1 tops

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    Bunbury cup 25/1 365/victor Donncha

    Am not very confident as the bunbury is only over 7fs,but they rarely win from the front in this race and he ran well over the mile in a listed race behind Estidhkaar over the mile on the track didn't run in the hunt cup so still has bit to prove after the last run at York,although previous to that had never run a bad race in what were very competitive handicaps.Again afjaan,george William and fastnet tempest run horses he has form with and closely matched on newbury form and ascot form,the 7f might be too short although does have a good record over the trip but they were far weaker races but had won 3/5 runs and the other two ran respectably.He's never gone off bigger than 10/1 in last ten runs and has never gone off bigger than 20/1 last time that happened was 4th of 20 in june 2015,he's probably going to go off 14/1 -16/1 tops and worth a small bet...
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    Newbury 9.0

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    Love your work has a great reciord at the track 1/2/1/1 the angle looked to be the ground but according to the bha website has only had 8mm of rain,probably still worth having a bet as that going report looking at the going stick is 6.3 hopefully will be good at best maybe on the softer side as horse has very little form with gd/fm in it.Tomorrow runs off 58 that's lowest mark since October 2015,joshua brian takes off 3 pound as well last season won over 1m2fs on the track off 64 in this grade,has already run arespectable race when finishing 4th at Windsor in this grade that was on goodish ground.If the ground is slower than good and has soft in it then that would be the first time the horse has run on that ground since the two wins at the track last season,ken Cunningham browns had 2 from his last 6 runners win and the jock won todaty and has also had a couple of winners if he gets his ground could well go off 6/1 ish..There are a few very well handicapped horses in the race that would win this if anywhere near their best but they are more guesswork..Jack of diamonds probably the one that catches the eye the most from class perspective..
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    4.40 Yarmouth

    A terrible race and very little to go on,the most interesting runner from a handicap perspective is john caeser has never run in this grade before but has only won 1/30 and never won on the turf,but if you look at last seasons turf form was running in races for horses rat5ed upto 70 and 65 and had three 3rds off 64 and a two seconds off 62 and 63 those runs are far better than anything else has achieved in this race for horses upto 55.Has not beeb running to his best on the aw recently but has won its only race after a break,has been off 3 months the betting should be really informative as if stable think he can run to last seasons form or even just below it,although being a maide on turf would at least have a great ew chance off just 55..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRICEWISE2008 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Newbury 9.0

    Loving your work 14/1 ppower/sportsbook/ 12/1 365/skybet/hills.betfred/totesport


    Love your work has a great reciord at the track 1/2/1/1 the angle looked to be the ground but according to the bha website has only had 8mm of rain,probably still worth having a bet as that going report looking at the going stick is 6.3 hopefully will be good at best maybe on the softer side as horse has very little form with gd/fm in it.Tomorrow runs off 58 that's lowest mark since October 2015,joshua brian takes off 3 pound as well last season won over 1m2fs on the track off 64 in this grade,has already run arespectable race when finishing 4th at Windsor in this grade that was on goodish ground.If the ground is slower than good and has soft in it then that would be the first time the horse has run on that ground since the two wins at the track last season,ken Cunningham browns had 2 from his last 6 runners win and the jock won todaty and has also had a couple of winners if he gets his ground could well go off 6/1 ish..There are a few very well handicapped horses in the race that would win this if anywhere near their best but they are more guesswork..Jack of diamonds probably the one that catches the eye the most from class perspective..

    Nice bit of place money,as I said in write up that going stick showing 6.3 it was a million there was any gd/fm in that ground,maybe good ground but definitely no fm bit of juice he probably would've won that great record at the track...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Nice bit of place money,as I said in write up that going stick showing 6.3 it was a million there was any gd/fm in that ground,maybe good ground but definitely no fm bit of juice he probably would've won that great record at the track...
    It wasn't the greatest ride from the jockey to be honest, considering how well he is riding at the moment. Both jockey and horse, however, are worth keeping an eye on. Thanks Andy.
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    Going to have some small singles and an ew multiple,have lots of things marked off all around 4/5/1 too many bets and not much value in prices
    small stakes hopefully plenty at least place

    Lingfield 8.10

    Express lady 11/4 ppower/5/2 365/victor

    Express ladt won over c/d on debut gets in here off 73 she won over c/d and on softish ground,form doesn't look uoto much with 2nd beaten again twice since but the time of the lingfield race was a second quicker than the other maiden on the card won by zefferino now rated 83 although beaten since and over 1.56 seconds quicker than the class 4 handicap on the card.Opening mark of 73 could be generous just based on the times,there's obviously quite a few unexposed ones but this one even if gets beat still looks worth following off very lowly mark..

    8.40

    Pharoh jake 8/1 ppower/sportsbook (could well be bigger yet) 9/1 lads/betway

    Pharoh jake veteran now hard to know how much ablity he retains,if this had been run on fast ground then wpuld look totally outclassed may still do yet it may depend if there's any more rain or how much it's dried out.There's not a lot of soft ground form in the race and the wetter it gets the more it levels the playing field,on gd/sft ground over 5fs Pharoh jakes form reads 3/3/2/1/1/1/3/4/3/4/11 didn't run to badly when running 4th to zipedeedodah over c/d this race is same grade although one or two that are capavb;e of better but on faster ground.Hopefully ground will be slower than that run over c/d,has also dropped another 3 pound since that run lasrt season won off 59 in this grade,price doesn't look particularly generous may go bigger yet with some firms.There's also a ? over the draw hes in 1 which could be a big negative especially with come on fdave in the 9 draw,hopefully predicted rain will arrive and lessen a few of these chances..


    York 3.05

    Defoe 10/30 ppower

    Very competitive handicap defoe winning the London gold cup at nwewbury off 88 and given a 10 piund rise but nice performance after 7 month break,the 4th time to study beaten 4 1/2ls has won and been 5th in a group 3 to Stradivarius recently and the 4th century dream also hacked up at Donny today.Hard to say it's value with so much good form in the race and progressuive types and these varian shorties that lookgroup horses often don't follow up bear valley ran in a better race last time out and Eminem still improving,just the form has worked out s well and winning on the ground at least place chances at worst

    Donny 6.55

    Ptarmigan ridge 11/8 365/victor

    The maiden Ptarmigan ridge ran in caught my eye on the clock last time out,although i'm not sure I may have overestimated it,the winner has since been beaten although in a decent handicap that was disappointing,that night the maiden ptarmigan ridge was 2nd in was quicker than khelmans win in the handicap on the card rated 79.There was a lot of rain around in between those races so hard to evaluate but it was ptarmigans debut run,the grund wil be similar and on same track,the form doesn't look great in the race so might be worth risking in similar conditions..

    Newcastle 4.05

    Lac leman 15/2 sportsbook 7/1 365/skybet/ppower

    Lac leman has disappointed last two runs although didn't run to badly on soft ground last time out,doesn't particularly look well handicapped off 77
    but is relatively lightly raced with 16 runs as 6r old and its best form has been over this c/d.Last run here was in a slightly better race when 2nd to codeshare off same mark of 77,the time looked good that afternoon fastest race on the card,the only negative I can see is that the track was riding slow that day tomorrow likely to be running quick,hopefully will be plenty of pace on as that might be the negative..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Going to have some small singles and an ew multiple,have lots of things marked off all around 4/5/1 too many bets and not much value in prices
    small stakes hopefully plenty at least place

    Lingfield 8.10

    Express lady 11/4 ppower/5/2 365/victor

    Express ladt won over c/d on debut gets in here off 73 she won over c/d and on softish ground,form doesn't look uoto much with 2nd beaten again twice since but the time of the lingfield race was a second quicker than the other maiden on the card won by zefferino now rated 83 although beaten since and over 1.56 seconds quicker than the class 4 handicap on the card.Opening mark of 73 could be generous just based on the times,there's obviously quite a few unexposed ones but this one even if gets beat still looks worth following off very lowly mark..

    8.40

    Pharoh jake 8/1 ppower/sportsbook (could well be bigger yet) 9/1 lads/betway

    Pharoh jake veteran now hard to know how much ablity he retains,if this had been run on fast ground then wpuld look totally outclassed may still do yet it may depend if there's any more rain or how much it's dried out.There's not a lot of soft ground form in the race and the wetter it gets the more it levels the playing field,on gd/sft ground over 5fs Pharoh jakes form reads 3/3/2/1/1/1/3/4/3/4/11 didn't run to badly when running 4th to zipedeedodah over c/d this race is same grade although one or two that are capavb;e of better but on faster ground.Hopefully ground will be slower than that run over c/d,has also dropped another 3 pound since that run lasrt season won off 59 in this grade,price doesn't look particularly generous may go bigger yet with some firms.There's also a ? over the draw hes in 1 which could be a big negative especially with come on fdave in the 9 draw,hopefully predicted rain will arrive and lessen a few of these chances..


    York 3.05

    Defoe 10/30 ppower

    Very competitive handicap defoe winning the London gold cup at nwewbury off 88 and given a 10 piund rise but nice performance after 7 month break,the 4th time to study beaten 4 1/2ls has won and been 5th in a group 3 to Stradivarius recently and the 4th century dream also hacked up at Donny today.Hard to say it's value with so much good form in the race and progressuive types and these varian shorties that lookgroup horses often don't follow up bear valley ran in a better race last time out and Eminem still improving,just the form has worked out s well and winning on the ground at least place chances at worst!

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    Donny 6.55

    Ptarmigan ridge 11/8 365/victor

    The maiden Ptarmigan ridge ran in caught my eye on the clock last time out,although i'm not sure I may have overestimated it,the winner has since been beaten although in a decent handicap that was disappointing,that night the maiden ptarmigan ridge was 2nd in was quicker than khelmans win in the handicap on the card rated 79.There was a lot of rain around in between those races so hard to evaluate but it was ptarmigans debut run,the grund wil be similar and on same track,the form doesn't look great in the race so might be worth risking in similar conditions..

    Newcastle 4.05

    Lac leman 15/2 sportsbook 7/1 365/skybet/ppower

    Lac leman has disappointed last two runs although didn't run to badly on soft ground last time out,doesn't particularly look well handicapped off 77
    but is relatively lightly raced with 16 runs as 6r old and its best form has been over this c/d.Last run here was in a slightly better race when 2nd to codeshare off same mark of 77,the time looked good that afternoon fastest race on the card,the only negative I can see is that the track was riding slow that day tomorrow likely to be running quick,hopefully will be plenty of pace on as that might be the negative..

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