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    Quote Originally Posted by EC1 View Post
    be interesting to see how easily Eltezam wins today..i get the Birchwood race as probably one of the best 2yo races this year ...there was the headwind issue that day so it may be misleading but i think Birchwood is best 2yo at the moment if correct..120 figure after mark up...and Eltezam potentially a 118. If those figures are right then Eltezam could win by far enough for them to shorten odds in the Coventry market..which will shorten Birchwood up in process
    the birchwood form just gets better..shala just won at newmarket..and beaverbrook at chester..birchwood will win the coventry imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    18:45 Hamilton, 2 Aug 2014


    6f 5y


    Alea Casino Open Maiden Stakes (Class 5) (3YO plus)
    Winner £3,234 - 7 ran


    1 Light blue, white hollow box, check cap 6. Ridge Ranger (IRE) (3)ATR Tracker 14/1 3 9 - 0 Jason Hart
    E J Alston
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    slowly into stride, behind and outpaced, headway 2f out, went 2nd over 1f out, soon ridden, led and edged left inside final furlong, kept on
    2 3¼ Light blue, orange epaulets 2. Cagoule (2)ATR Tracker 1/3 Fav 3 9 - 5 D Tudhope
    D O'Meara
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    in touch, led after 2f, ridden over 1f out, headed inside final furlong, no extra
    3 4½ Black, pink seams, black sleeves, pink stars, black cap 3. Locky Taylor (IRE) (4)ATR Tracker 7/1 2Fav 3 9 - 0p S A Gray (5)
    K A Ryan
    59
    led 2f, with leader, ridden over 2f out, no impression with front pair from over 1f out
    4 3 Turquoise, navy blue disc, collar and cuffs, check cap 5. Llandanwg (7)ATR Tracker 20/1 3 9 - 0 P Makin
    B Smart
    45
    chased leaders, ridden 2f out, kept on same pace, no impression in 4th from over 1f out
    5 12 Yellow, red star, red sleeves, yellow armlets 7. Say Something (5)ATR Tracker 20/1 3 9 - 0 P McDonald
    Mrs A Duffield
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    chased leaders, ridden 2f out, soon weakened
    6 4 White and royal blue (halved), black sleeves, white spots, black cap 1. Bannock Town (6)ATR Tracker 50/1 3 9 - 2 G Bartley (3)
    Miss L A Perratt
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    chased leaders, outpaced 3f out, behind final 2f
    7 ½ White, emerald green diamond, sleeves and diamond on cap 4. Katies Joy (IRE) (1)ATR Tracker 14/1 3 8 - 9 G Whillans (5)
    I Semple
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    fractious before start, chased leaders, outpaced when edged right towards far side rail 2f out, soon ridden, weakened over 1f out

    Off Time:18:47:23
    Winning Time:1m 12.27s


    Ridge ranger

    Nice debut from winner trained by one of my fav sprint trainers eric alston,i'm always looking out for the odd one or two of his just incase he has a nice progressive handicapper.Ridge ranger gave these a 4l start where the psce was holding up in the sprints,so did well to win by 3ls quite convincingly at finish.There was rain at the meeting so hard to compare times but looking at the 5th race it looks as though it may have been mainly drizzle as times weren't affected that much throughout the evening.This half sister related to lots of winners invincible ride,ridge wood,full mandate,danidh Dubai and badr al badoor,the winning time was .69 slower than jamesbos girl rated 74 in the older handicap that time maybe better than it looks as she herself is regaining her form was 89 rated 2013.
    The mark of the 3yr old would be a guestimate but an opening mark of 75 would seem workable as she did win convincingly with lots of improvement to come.
    Lovely stuff that's 16/1 and 10/30 this season and an unlucky second!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Kempton (AW) Result
    04 Apr 2015
    « 4:35 » BETFRED RACING "FOLLOW US ON TWITTER" CONDITIONS STAKES (BOBIS RACE)
    (Class 2) (3yo) 1m Standard
    £12,938.00, £3,850.00, £1,924.00, £962.00

    WATCH RACE - 25p
    RESULTRATE RACE
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    HORSE/SP AGE WGT TRAINER/JOCKEY OR TS RPR

    « 1 4 Peacock 5/6F 3 9-0 Richard Hannon 106 * *
    Richard Hughes


    « 2 5 2¾ Azraff (IRE) 9/4 3 9-0 Marco Botti 93 * *
    Ryan Moore


    « 3 3 1¼ Surewecan 11/1 3 9-0 Mark Johnston 93 * *
    Joe Fanning


    « 4 2 1½ Jolievitesse (FR) 6/1 3 9-0 K R Burke 90 * *
    Martin Harley


    4 ran TIME 1m 37.12s (slow by 0.52s

    Peacock


    Peacock hadn't looked anything special until 3rd to nafaqa and toocoolforschool,the winner now rated 109 after runner up to elm park and the runner up rated 113 after 7l win
    in a group 2 obviously the mile trip today has shown to suit peacock whether he can make an impact in group races against the plethora of good 3yr olds this season probably unlikely as so many decent improvers,it looks like the 3yr old races are going to be very competotive this season.What might be more interesting is oif he can't make an impact on the turf and returns to the aw,he absolutely hacked up today,the time very good for 4 horse race probably what you would expect for horse rated 106 but there was a lot more to come and on these surfaces he should be one to follow.Todays winning time was .19 quicker than the older class 2 handicap,probably what you would expect but the time doesn't really do him justice as couldv'e been 4/5ls better than that form which would be exceptional.The sire paco boys just starting to run up a profile on these surfaces these may well be where he picks up the nice prizes and a possibility he may just be tried out on dirt as well which would leave even more options.
    I would be keeoping a close eye on him especially if the turf races are to good for him as there looks an alternative option for him and he could be group class on dofferent surfaces.At worst i would expect to see him back at kempton for a few of the aw listed races run later in the year, perhaps optimistically to see if he improves enough maybe for even breeders cup...

    And a little double with the peacock!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simmo View Post
    6 today.

    Canny Kool
    Emell
    Limato
    Peacock
    Pull The Pin
    Ridge Ranger
    4th, 5th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st

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    Nottingham Result
    31 May 2015
    2:15 » PHS WORKPLACE CONSUMABLES EBF MAIDEN STAKES
    (Class 5) (2yo) (5f13y) 5f Good To Soft
    £3,881.40, £1,155.00, £577.20, £288.6
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    HORSE/SP AGE WGT TRAINER/JOCKEY OR TS RPR

    1 8 Dhahmaan (IRE) 3/1 2 9-2 Marco Botti — * *
    Marc Monaghan3


    2 3 ¾ Ajaya 2/1F 2 9-5 William Haggas — * *
    Pat Cosgrave


    « 3 4 4 Kyllukey 7/1 2 9-5 Charles Hills — * *
    Steve Drowne


    4 6 1½ Sandahl (IRE) 7/1 2 9-5 Ralph Beckett — * *
    Richard Kingscote


    5 10 ¾ Adham (IRE) 6/1 2 9-5 James Tate — * *
    Luke Morris


    6 2 3½ Wilsons Ruby (IRE) 8/1 2 9-5 Brian Ellison — * *
    Tom Eaves


    « 7 7 2¼ Memyselfie (IRE) 100/1 2 9-0 Derek Shaw — * *
    Renato Souza


    8 9 3 Lady Joanna Vassa (IRE) 20/1 2 9-0 Richard Guest — * *
    Jason Hart


    « 9 5 ½ Captain Gerald 100/1 2 8-12 John Ryan — * *
    Eva Moscrop7


    « 10 11 ½ Tutill 100/1 2 8-7 Michael Easterby — * *
    Nathan Evans7


    « 11 1 1¼ Pink Ice 100/1 2 9-0 Michael Easterby — * *
    Paul Mulrennan


    11 ran TIME 1m 0.96s (slow by 2.66s)

    Dhahmaan
    Ajaya

    Mubtaghaa won this lasty year for haggas 3rd in Windsor castle,always like to look out for some of these maidens at notts as some nice horses get overlooked and the winner and runner up look well above average,first 2yr old winner for marco botti this season and bred to get a lot further was really impressive to pick up from off the pace and winning very easily actually looked beter class than these.Similarly the runner up the haggas runner the fact he aimed at this race maybe a pointer to it being a similar ability to mubtagha and the form looks rock solid with kyllukey 4ls back with experience,at ascot kyllukey was only just behind beaverbrook and king of rooks second fav for the Coventry,again this shows the weakness of the form of 2yr olds but also shows how races and horses like this could get very underestimated.The winning time was also backed up by the progressive double up winning the latter older handicap off 88,the time only .50 quicker but the maiden runners carrying more weight,as good as most of the times seen this season with loads of improvement to come,i'd be looking for prices ion these two especially the winner was very impressive I'd be surprised if not both seen at ascot and would be worth a bet at juicy prices as undoubtedly this maiden will be underestimated...

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    4 tomorrow

    Bushcraft
    Jersey Cream
    Roccos Delight
    Venus Marina (gets half of the conditions noted - straight 7f but no slow ground)

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    Had biggest win in 20 years yesterday,so little chance iof me getting any bets on for the foreseeable future these shorteners to me so slight value on the place and pool house will either hack up or be out of frame could do some sort of ew multiples
    Diamond blaise 11/4 betfairsportsbook
    My major 9/2 365/betfairsportsbook
    No delusion 4/1 betfairsportsbook
    Pool house evens ppower
    Roccos delight 3/1 ppower/nbetfairsportsbook/hills
    Black truffle 9/4 betfairsportsbook/2/1 365

    Also Queen catrine 4/1 lads as long as grounds on fast side can't see this going off bigger than 5/2 there's even a chance could go off fav although has been disappointing,ran well last time out on sioft ground...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Beverley Result
    23 May 2015
    « 3:15 » HILARY NEEDLER TROPHY FILLIES' CONDITIONS STAKES (PLUS 10 RACE)
    (Class 2) (2yo) 5f Good To Firm
    £15,562.50, £4,660.00, £2,330.00, £1,165.00, £582.50, £292.50

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    « 1 1 Easton Angel (IRE) 9/4F 2 8-12 Michael Dods — * *
    Paul Mulrennan


    « 2 7 1 Opal Tiara (IRE) 11/2 2 8-12 Mick Channon — * *
    Charles Bishop


    « 3 2 4 Socialites Red 40/1 2 8-12 Scott Dixon — * *
    David Allan


    « 4 5 1¼ Holy Grail (IRE) 6/1 2 8-12 Richard Fahey — * *
    P J McDonald


    « 5 8 hd New Road Side 8/1 2 8-12 Tony Coyle — * *
    Barry McHugh


    « 6 10 1¼ Company Asset (IRE) 9/1 2 8-12 Kevin Ryan — * *
    Robert Havlin


    « 7 6 ½ Arranmore Girl (IRE) 20/1 2 8-12 Nigel Tinkler — * *
    Tom Eaves


    « 8 3 ½ Majestic Bond 25/1 2 8-12 Geoffrey Oldroyd — * *
    Chris Catlin


    « 9 4 2½ Kept Under Wraps (IRE) 3/1 2 8-12 Richard Fahey — * *
    Tony Hamilton


    10 9 31 Vocalise 100/1 2 8-9 Charles Smith — * *
    R P Walsh

    Easton angel
    10 ran TIME 1m 1.52s (slow by 0.52s)

    A seemingly very fast time only .52 above standard the winner Easton angel cantering through out winning under hand's n' heels whether the ground was quicker than stated still looks decent run being .69 than the colts in previous race,the problem with these winners the automatically go into group races and there are usually a [plethora of similar types.
    So far the 2yr olds at this stage of a normal season have been abysmal,veryu few speedfigures and the ones that have Harvard man have run poorly on next run although different ground others such as silver wings and then draem dreamer this week running twice and running ragged stables fault through pure greed but als0 shows that these 2yr olds aren't taking their racing well.There are quite a few nice looking handicappers on the clock but usually aren't worth writing up as there's usually dozens at the moment these types look like the'rre going to be contending the listed and group races unless the next 10 days throw up some much needed speed figures,i can't remember such a poor bunch at this stage of the season.Don't know what will happen with Easton angel either from the diods stable as not sure he sends them to ascot but at this point she maybe worth an entry she's built like a colt and she goes on any type of ground,she probably isn't top class but at this moment on limited sample she could be a lively outsider in group races.
    Todays form was sort of franked in the race by new side road,beaten 3ls in the listed race at York was beaten double that distance today,the second looks like picking up another race as well opal tiaras only win a maidem on the aw and today not sure she liked the gd/fm ground.

    11/2 racebets for Queen mary 5/1 ppower/betfairsportsbook not much of a price but at least she goes on anygoing on the day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC1 View Post
    the birchwood form just gets better..shala just won at newmarket..and beaverbrook at chester..birchwood will win the coventry imo
    Birchwood available at 13/8 today, looks a good price to me. Any thoughts EC?

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    interesting choice of race Benny..a tie in with Round Two as well through argentero...interesting test for the ratings...wouldn't be lumping on at that price though tbh...the Newbury ratings were a bit blighted by wind...i just hope it wins or i'll have to scrap that day

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC1 View Post
    interesting choice of race Benny..a tie in with Round Two as well through argentero...interesting test for the ratings...wouldn't be lumping on at that price though tbh...the Newbury ratings were a bit blighted by wind...i just hope it wins or i'll have to scrap that day
    Round Two form is solid..i'm not convinced Birchwood liked the ground..got a fast ground scratchy action..a watching brief..the race time was 8 seconds slower than standard..very slow ground..i assume its been raining all afternoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Had biggest win in 20 years yesterday,so little chance iof me getting any bets on for the foreseeable future these shorteners to me so slight value on the place and pool house will either hack up or be out of frame could do some sort of ew multiples
    Diamond blaise 11/4 betfairsportsbook
    My major 9/2 365/betfairsportsbook
    No delusion 4/1 betfairsportsbook
    Pool house evens ppower
    Roccos delight 3/1 ppower/nbetfairsportsbook/hills
    Black truffle 9/4 betfairsportsbook/2/1 365

    Also Queen catrine 4/1 lads as long as grounds on fast side can't see this going off bigger than 5/2 there's even a chance could go off fav although has been disappointing,ran well last time out on sioft ground...
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    well done gigolo. hopefully the two tonight come in or I'm out of cash from this experiment with your to follows!

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    I never backed any of them 75% of them aren't going to be bets purely on price then ground etc,horses like jersey cream I backed ar 12s last time out was 7/4 probably never be a bet again there was zilch value on todays runners even if they won and venus marina was running on wrong ground,complete opposite of ground its ever run well on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    I never backed any of them 75% of them aren't going to be bets purely on price then ground etc,horses like jersey cream I backed ar 12s last time out was 7/4 probably never be a bet again there was zilch value on todays runners even if they won and venus marina was running on wrong ground,complete opposite of ground its ever run well on...
    lol. enjoy your thread then.

    Summary of "the experiment".

    27 bets. 6 winners. to a £10 level stake -£73.

    Perhaps it would have done better if you'd only backed the winners.
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    I'm intrigued by how you narrow them down to just the 25% - obviously, unless you're a complete Walter Mitty, you are making money off these. But you appear to be the only one.

    As an example to show us how to make the decision about what's a bet and what isn't - how about Flight Risk which won at 50/1 a few weeks ago. You highlighted it in September with the comments that you'd like to see him in listed contests on the a.w. over 6f. How did you come to the decision to back him at 50/1 over 7f on Yielding turf, conditions which he had previously been well beaten under? Was it purely a price thing?

    That sort of thing was probably what made me assume that you simply backed everything just in case - but you're telling me that's not the case and now I'm confused and need some clarification about your selection processes. (Assuming of course that this thread isn't just an ego-trip).

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    Fella I've been posting on here for 5 years the threads got 360,000 views that's because it's been so successful it original started off as a bets thread surely you must have looked before, I used to put the prices up the night before the threads showing probably a couple of thousand points profit on the bets I put up moving the markets as I did today with the queen catrine bet,only bet put on here since the time mentioned and hacks up at 9/4.Putting up all that information was giving far to much away regarding books so fior the last 3 seasons been putting the to follows up,its not a list of bets but information and guide most of the time they won;'t be bets because a high % of the thi9ngs I note are times etc which get reflected in the market on next runs,unless they've got a huge write up and 10 pound in hand I'm not in the habit of backing lots of short prices.
    I do the form for every single race on every single card and price them up and havn't missed a race since the beginning of the season,why you've started to have a niggle after I've been on here 5 years and put up 100s of winning bets with prices I don't know I wondered why you'd started posting on here.
    I get dozens of emails about the to follows some have kept the last 3 seasons,in actual fact from the beginning of the year the to follows are 100+ points backing every single thing on it,thats according to someone elses spreadsheet I'm not even interested if iuts showing a profit I wouldn't expect it to be it's simply about showing up the times form and explanatioj of form in detail/.



    By the way Buscrafts just won,different gear aren't they and no I didn't back it as the race was so competitive but nice srtiill to be proven right,some sort of performance eh!!.

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    I'm not sure why you would see someone asking a valid question as "niggling" (and not answer the question).

    Let's hope Roccos comes in too.

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    splendid stuff - first day of profit since I've been looking in.

    now to the questions about how you narrow them down......

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