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  1. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    The handicapper dropped quite a few horses for...

    The handicapper dropped quite a few horses for their Hennessy/Ladbroke runs and I think only Total Recall and Whisper went up after it, so maybe it's not surprising only the winner and the third have...
  2. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    We're completely agreed on the fatuous rating the...

    We're completely agreed on the fatuous rating the RP came up with for Bristol, I was the one who raised it here.

    But the others also got carried away, to a lesser degree. The OH has obviously...
  3. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    It's not just the Racing Post that's having...

    It's not just the Racing Post that's having trouble with Bristol De Mai, so are the official handicappers.

    He went into the Peter Marsh Chase last January rated 154 and was bumped up to 166. By...
  4. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    Yes, some horses like heavy ground at Haydock,...

    Yes, some horses like heavy ground at Haydock, and Bristol De Mai certainly deserves respect when running in similar conditions. But he beat a small field when getting that rating, which was...
  5. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    Well said

    Well said
  6. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    Yes, the leader probably got caught out by going...

    Yes, the leader probably got caught out by going a bit too fast, but even so it was a nice comeback for Coney Island under a well judged ride. Fingers crossed he's sound in the morning.
  7. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    Bristol won by 57L. His RPR for Saturday is 185...

    Bristol won by 57L. His RPR for Saturday is 185 and Cue Card's is 128, exactly 57 lbs less.
  8. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    I think there is a particular problem rating wide...

    I think there is a particular problem rating wide margin wins with normal handicapping techniques which award 1lb for one length. As I said above, once the margin stretches to a point where the...
  9. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    PJ, it's time to let you in on a little secret....

    PJ, it's time to let you in on a little secret.
    You and Grassy might prefer to think baby jumps horses are delivered by the stork but - guess what? - almost all of them are in fact fathered by...
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    It's true that the others couldn't cope and fair...

    It's true that the others couldn't cope and fair dues to you for backing him, but I don't believe it was one of the great performances of all time.
  11. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    Bristol De Mai has been given an RPR of 185 for...

    Bristol De Mai has been given an RPR of 185 for his 57 lengths defeat of Cue Card on Saturday (RPR 128).

    To put this in perspective, Desert Orchid managed to beat BDM's rating from Saturday just...
  12. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    Breaking story that Sizing John doesn't run on...

    Breaking story that Sizing John doesn't run on Saturday
  13. Thread: 2018 Gold Cuppin'

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    I read yesterday, can't remember where, that...

    I read yesterday, can't remember where, that Outlander is an intended runner at Haydock.
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