Unless Gigginstown treat this like a run of the mill handicap chase in Ireland, declaring all fifteen of their entries!
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Unless Gigginstown treat this like a run of the mill handicap chase in Ireland, declaring all fifteen of their entries!
Vyta Du Roc will be very unlucky not to make the cut. He's off 140 while 138 and 139 have made the cut in recent years.
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a cut, in fact. I'm not sure there will be a maximum field.
Number 47 on the list Martin. I'm not sure typically where the cut off has been. Anyone have the stats.
I take your point with the Gigi entries, but he's a long way down and needs a lot of defections. I'm not saying he won't get in, just that from my own perspective it leaves me preferring to wait.
Yes Mo but it looks very compressed this time round don't you think?
Have you got your long lists for the last couple of years reasonably easy to hang for comparison where the cut was at this stage? I reckon VdR might be pretty close to it.
Beware the Bear
:lol:
2016 - my earliest document is the five day stage: 28 left, going down to 134 Another Hero 9-8 (Smad Place 166, 11-12); 20 declared, Smad Place top weight 11-12, bottom weight Upswing (137) 10-0 (3oh)
2015 - entry stage only 35 entered (? - could I have amended it at a later date for the 5-day stage?); 17 ran, ratings range 163-139
2014 - 19 declared, ratings range 155-138
2013 - 21 declared (did they have reserves then?); ratings range 158-132
Hope this helps.
I can't wait to learn more about handicapping. I like the horse, but how on earth can Label Des Obeaux be handicapped higher than some of the names below him?
Thanks Maurice. I'll hold fire on VdR until the 5 day stage I think. It feels to me like the number of decs at this stage is much more than usual so we could have a higher OR as bottom weight. I do take Martin's point with regards multiple Gigi entries though.
Well not too disheartened. He travelled well, looked like a winner turning for home, but just emptied like he needed the run quite badly. Hopefully he will come on for the run.
Presumably the purpose of the exercise. Fitness while protecting his chase mark just in case.
Yeah, looking at the other thread where DG posted Henderson's opinions on his runners, he said Vyta would come on a lot for the run. He also said the plan is this race. He also said he's not too badly handicapped. So overall I'll settle for it.
Does Whisper cop a penalty for this, after winning at Kempton yesterday?
I don't think so. I don't think the weights are out yet so he'll be re-handicapped if deemed necessary. I think.
Weights are out, DO:
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards...45/at-a-glance
I can't recall any horses in the past where they've run with a penalty. Whisper probably the second horse today I think is fairly handicapped off 157!